Comparing Ra and the Cassiopaeans

[Dtris]

My understanding is that the octave works the same as the music scale. We can hear multiple octaves of sound, but the notes repeat. This major octave is still one in an infinite cycle. The 8th note is also the first. So an 8D entity in our octave is a 1st density in the next. In the concept of densities we might be able to assume that the individuated portions of the creator continue their evolution thru the densities and that the higher densities can interact with the lower.

It is possible that we are interacting with a lower octave than our own in some ways, such as experiments with sub-atomic particles.

There's a larger range of interpretations discussed of the Ra cosmology than of the Cassiopaean cosmology, because the formulation is left rather open-ended. I've noticed that most people here that describe a structure of the cosmos in terms of densities reduce the cosmology to a subset of possible ideas. I'm no exception in that regard. I'll try to describe the main criteria I use, or the overall angle in what differs.

The cosmology somehow ranges from the unity of the creator to the greatest complexity of division. How can it all fit together in one "something"? If unity is not reached when 7D is entered, then where else, is it after X octaves, or after an infinite number of octaves? If individual beings still exist around 7D, then you have a different scale than the one I try to picture.

In the Cassiopaean cosmology, the attempt is made to fit "everything" (or a somewhat simplified view thereof) into a scale of 7. The density scale becomes a gradient ranging from perfect fullness (7D, all alive as one) to perfect emptiness (that which is merely thoughts in the mind of, perhaps, the logos, and which lead a purely virtual existence). I still use that basic frame of reference.

What's the use of several octaves if nothing can truly be bigger than 7D? It comes mainly from zooming in, as is done in the Ra cosmology, and considering smaller octaves. For example, when you divide each density into 7 steps, and you count from step 1 in 3D, then step 8 is the first step in 4D. And if subatomic particles are lower than atomic ones, then you'd presumably find them by zooming in on the lower end of 1D.

I think where we diverge is that I do not think individuality ever ends. In my understanding of the Ra Cosmology, the only time when unity is re-established is when the creation is brought back into the creator which happens periodically. I think the idea that 7D is complete unity with the creation comes from this portion.

16.22 Questioner: Thank you very much. In previous material, before we communicated with you, it was stated by the Confederation that there is actually no past or future… all is present. Would this be a good analogy?

Ra: I am Ra. There is past, present, and future in third density. In an overview such as an entity may have, removed from the space/time continuum, it may be seen that in the cycle of completion there exists only the present. We, ourselves, seek to learn this understanding. At the seventh level or dimension, we shall, if our humble efforts are sufficient, become one with all, thus having no memory, no identity, no past or future, but existing in the all.

I think their description here, as in other places is woefully inadequate to describe the actual state they are attempting to describe. This passage is somewhat contradicted by the following.

4.20 Questioner: My objective is primarily to discover more of the Law of One, and [it would] be very helpful to discover techniques of healing. I am aware of your problem with respect to free will. Can you make… You cannot make suggestions, so I will ask you if you can state the Law of One and the laws of healing to me?

Ra: I am Ra. The Law of One, though beyond the limitations of name, as you call vibratory sound complexes, may be approximated by stating that all things are one, that there is no polarity, no right or wrong, no disharmony, but only identity. All is one, and that one is love/light, light/love, the Infinite Creator.

The following passage is where I base much of my concept of their cosmology extending in infinite octaves, as well as references to guardians who come from the next octave to aid in harvest.

28.16 Questioner: Are you saying then there are an infinite number of octaves of densities one through eight?

Ra: I am Ra. We wish to establish that we are truly humble messengers of the Law of One. We can speak to you of our experiences and our understandings and teach/learn in limited ways. However, we cannot speak in firm knowledge of all the creations. We know only that they are infinite. We assume an infinite number of octaves.

However, it has been impressed upon us by our own teachers that there is a mystery-clad unity of creation in which all consciousness periodically coalesces and again begins. Thus we can only say we assume an infinite progression though we understand it to be cyclical in nature and, as we have said, clad in mystery.

In the above passage and at least one other passage Ra refers to their own teachers, which iirc are from the seventh density. To be able to teach someone in sixth density there must be some sort of individualization. Beyond that, I personally try to avoid speculating what higher densities are like, as I personally think it is impossible to be accurate within the language limitations and our limited perspective as incarnated humans.