The Metaphysical Matter of Bring4th Itself

[Dtris]

I don't see why this discussion has to have anything to do with personal attacks. I don't really agree with the notion that "people who research these topics are trying to feel more informed than the average sinkholer" thing. Like it's some ego-based thing to laugh at people and call them "sheeple". Maybe some people see it this way, and really do think reading conspiracy theories makes them smarter than everyone else. Those people would still be operating at a very 3d level. Seekers in communities like b4 are not often like that.

We can discuss these topics in their context. Is it transient to want to understand the world around, what makes humans tick, and what the societal dysfunctions are? It does not mean you are expected to physically go and fix them. It just means being aware. Understanding. If people want to discuss conspiracies in the actual greater context of the LOO and Earth 4d ascension, than I see it as a legitimate topic. If one wants to discuss other things, there is nothing stopping them from discussing higher spiritual principles removed from the framework of any Earth agendas. Nobody's discouraging that type of discussion and those avenues of seeking. Why discourage another's?

I don't think there's any judgments going on here. It's the tower of babel effect casting shadows again. I'd rather build bridges.

I see the issues with an over-focus on such topics at the detriment of purer spiritual pursuits. The tendency to use it as victimhood fuel. I don't really see that happening with any of the discussions on b4 lately. People can have a unified theory, integrated world view and bounce back and forth between conspiracy topics, Earth historical and cultural topics, and pure metaphysical and occult topics. They can discuss these in their own contexts and how they intermingle as a unified theory, just like the questions asked of the confederation addressed all these topics as a unified theory. This doesn't have to be a conflict. Everything doesn't have to be a fucking dichotomy.

I agree with your sentiment and approach here, but I would offer one bit of food for thought. People have different ways of measuring truth for themselves, and everyone develops very different convictions as to what 'the truth' is. The basis for this is rooted in each individual's experience and whatever method they have gone about attaining knowledge in their lifetime.

If, after all of this, individuals encounter each other with wildly opposite senses of truth, with each certain of their own truth, how does a bridge get built? This is a pragmatic question, one which I am frequently concerned with since the bridging of opposites is something I think is a very crux of unification.

Do you see it that others here (using this forum as example because it's the immediate environment, but I am leaning to a more general idea) simply let others have their beliefs, or does it seem like people make efforts to make their truth dominant? In my mind, it is possible to both be convicted to one's own truth as well as being humble enough to not preach it, but others see truth and deceit as a matter of warfare, and to some extent even contextualized as some battle for the human spirit and mind. Some will claim they hold more than a personal truth, and have universal truth. If someone feels this way, how could that ever allow the room for other viewpoints?

Personally, I am a little avoidant of hierarchical thinking I admit. I prefer to think in circles and with conviction only towards the seeking, less the grasping.

Thankfully, this discussion board is full of mature individuals who are here to genuinely seek knowledge. In the more mainstream conspiracy sites, there are plenty of people who feel superior due to knowing more theories or some particular theory.

I actually found that attitude the most prevalent among philosophy majors in college. I doubt much has changed but smug arrogance was their modus operandi, and I greatly enjoyed messing with them. The same attitude can even be found in video games and books. Some people think there is a "right" way to do everything.

This type of individual is similar to the one who preaches THE TRUTH™ and feels compelled to convert as many as possible to it. Both types of individuals take it as a personal affront that someone can do something they disagree with. Especially if after explaining why they are obviously correct, and anyone who does or believes differently is incorrect, then the person still refuses to capitulate their beliefs or actions, they lose their minds.

These type of people have cropped up here occasionally as well. The message here is not compatible with blind devotion, preaching, or overly judgemental discussion methods. As most everyone who participates here makes a conscious and sustained effort to accept other selves and love other selves as self, those types of interactions are not fruitful for the ego gratification of those who would engage in that method.

While there is only one truth, there is an infinite depth and breadth to the truth as well. We are not here to reconcile the polarities, or make sense of the world. Once you accept that it becomes easy to accept others and what they believe. The challenge is when what someone believes or someones actions are an infringement on yourself or others. Then you must decide what is the appropriate response.

I think this forum will continue to be an example of how STO seekers can and should interact. Hopefully more are drawn in as time moves forward and the inquisitive harmony will help many seekers.