03-17-2021, 12:43 AM
(03-16-2021, 02:49 PM)Patrick Wrote: Right, of course there are no words. It's just that here I'm not saying it is happy, where unhappy must also exist for happy to have any meaning. It would seem that joy is something else.
Ra 34.6 Wrote:...there will be additional catalyst provided to offer the unmanifested self further opportunities for discovering the self as all-sufficient Creator containing all that there is and full of joy.
Ra 80.22 Wrote:...The contact with intelligent infinity is most likely to produce an unspeakable joy in the entity experiencing such contact...
I don't know really. I just have this notion that the basic condition experienced by the One Infinite Creator even before contrast is JOY. The contrast only serves to increase the appreciation of this joy. I have no words for this. It's just a knowing without knowing. A seeming paradox.
Then after one is experiencing NOT JOY one now can recognize JOY.
One might be in JOY state previously, but it cannot recognize JOY since it hasn't experienced NOT JOY.
One cannot recognize 'full' before experiencing 'hunger'.
One cannot recognize 'light' before experiencing 'darkness'.
Siddharta cannot recognize 'luxury' while living inside the castle, once he ventured outside the castle and see the contrast he then recognized 'luxury' and automatically the 'not luxury' as well.
Back to "Joy"..
Mr Sadhguru mention a layer called "Bliss Body" in sanskrit it's called "Ananda Maya Kosha". Ananda when translated is close in meanings to "Joy" or "Bliss". Thus Ananda Maya Kosha is close in meanings to Blissful/Joyful Virtual Sheathing.
It's still a 'body', a 'sheating', a 'kosha', a form of 'karmic structure', a containment of 'limited identification' yet it's non-physical. The experience one get from focusing on / through that layer is blissful. As a metaphor it's similar to 'dreamless peaceful sleep'.