Giants

[unity100]

I think I'm beginning to see what the problem is here, unity100, and the reason you entered the thread in the first place. But I might be wrong.

It was because I called the Hebrew bible unreliable from the word go.

Judging from what you say above, since the entire Old Testament is a narrative, how would you say Orion influenced it negatively, if they didn't influence the narrative, since the entire text is a narrative.

there is no relevance in between my participation and reasons you cite above. i participated out of historical considerations.

I agree with you, Protonexus, but if we are going to get somewhere, we have to agree on which sources are trustworthy to the largest extent, and which ones aren't, and why we make those assessments.

the trustworthy source in this case is Ra material due to it being channeled in a very specific and narrow band.

the written material in the case of the bibles and torah, cannot be trusted without being referenced and coupled with historical references, facts, and situations. these are few and limited.

This event 3600 years ago is quite significant, and the serious inroads that those of Orion made upon the planetary consciousness could only have been the formation of Judaism, from which modern day Christianity and Islam were born. It is the only regional event/events at the time that can be described as having a profound influence on the planetary consciousness.

entities have been living in bellicose ways, warring with each other, and maintaining elite classes and lower classes since prehistoric times. especially evidenced by the fact that due to these and disharmony with other selves, lifespan shortened from 900 to 700 in the first cycle, and down to even 30-40 in the third cycle. orion group has been making investments as early has 60,000 years ago, if you check the eastern islands topic. apparently, planetary consciousness was affected quite a lot up till this point.

had this been in egypt, there would be much more accounts of any existence of such extraordinary occurrence, be it yahweh, or the huge anaks they have produced as offspring, due to the tradition of egypt for recording anything of significance.

So after this statement of yours, you would admit that if the Egyptians did in fact record giants in their art, you would reject it, because according to you and other Egyptian scholars the elite were depicted larger. Since Ra tells us that the Anak offspring were more intelligent, stronger and larger, and bough into the distortion complex of elitism, they would likely have been Pharaohs and priests in Egypt (elite). So we can sure that if the Egyptians did record this "extraordinary occurrence" in the only way they knew how - visually - because they had a "tradition of record keeping", it makes your above statement a little hypocritical. What if they depicted giants as giants, because they were giants?

excuse me, but at this point i will have to put it bluntly - you are feeding too much on extreme conspiracy material.

pharaohs being larger than others, pharaoh's wife being smaller than him, and larger than anyone else under her stature, and all the society being represented in established ranks under them, is the custom of egypt. there is nothing scholarly about this or nothing to discuss.

had there been a race of giants, they would be represented as entities of equal size. they would not rank down according to their status.

moreover, written text of egypt, would be talking about this.

putting facts in quotes do not make them less believable. recordkeeping was a way of life in egypt, and scribe was one of the few high order and rich professions which came under the priests in stature.

i have even identified the pharaoh in the parchment you put forth as a supposed giant, to be akhenaton, someone who we know in detail.

moreover, we have numerous other pharaoh mummies, ALL of which were depicted taller and bigger from anyone else in their flock in ALL cases of representation, and NONE of them are anything larger than a normal human.

yet you keep trying to push the same thing over and over as proof of extreme conspiracy theories.

let me put it clearly and precisely again :

all pharaohs are represented as 'giants' in egyptian art, and NONE of the pharaoh mummies, is of any size larger than an ordinary man.

apologies for the bold wordage, however i dont think there has been left any other way to put this at this point.

Firstly, can you supply some sources for this, I have tried to find something today which supports this statement of yours, but were unsuccessful.

Let's only stick to the phrase "Sons of God", since that's the phrase in dispute, and please provide your source.

then you either didnt try enough, or, just didnt want to find. for it is a basic concept in egyptian religion, and one of the first things one learns while reading about egypt.

http://www.prudentialpublishing.info/mea...of_god.htm

The following inscription found at El-Amarna, the royal city of Akhenaton , refers to Akhenaton as “Horus …the son of god Re”: “The living Horus ... Gold-Horus: Who exalts the name of Aten; the King of Upper and Lower Egypt ... the son of Re ... Akhenaton ...” [2] The falcon-god Horus [3] was the son of the god Osiris. The Egyptian kings, the Pharaohs, were the incarnation of the god Horus. “He {Horus} descended from heaven and was born in Hierapolis .” [4] An inscription for Pharaoh Ramesses II reads, “I {god} am your Father, who has engendered you {Ramesses II} as god in order that you be king of Upper and Lower Egypt on My throne.” [5] Also, the ancient Near Eastern kings were believed to be “sons of a god,” the offspring of a god: “{King Hammurabi} the descendant of royalty, whom {the god} Sin begat.” [6]

had this been in egypt, there would be much more accounts of any existence of such extraordinary occurrence, be it yahweh, or the huge anaks they have produced as offspring, due to the tradition of egypt for recording anything of significance.

So after this statement of yours, you would admit that if the Egyptians did in fact record giants in their art, you would reject it, because according to you and other Egyptian scholars the elite were depicted larger. Since Ra tells us that the Anak offspring were more intelligent, stronger and larger, and bough into the distortion complex of elitism, they would likely have been Pharaohs and priests in Egypt (elite). So we can sure that if the Egyptians did record this "extraordinary occurrence" in the only way they knew how - visually - because they had a "tradition of record keeping", it makes your above statement a little hypocritical. What if they depicted giants as giants, because they were giants?

The above links are about Sumerian religion and Sumer, and doesn't provide anything to substantiate your point.

if you had read it, you would find out what i had to specifically quote above yourself.

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sorry but you dont know enough history to debate in this detail on the subject, and you keep asking for most basic things by requesting sources.

i have given you a ready link to sumer religion, a culture on which almost everything in middle east zone except egypt is based on, not to mention almost all elements of semitic cultures, yet, you have not spared the time to read it.

excuse me, but i cant teach you history. neither do i have to keep on laboring in order to illuminate and explain what the half baked 'proof' taken from conspiracy sites are, in truth.

i will have to opt out of this discussion with you, at this point. thank you.