02-03-2021, 03:18 PM
(02-03-2021, 12:47 PM)Steppingfeet Wrote:(02-03-2021, 10:55 AM)Minyatur Wrote: If you have such a great faith in the Logos and the design of things, then why would you believe that you need the vaccine or that it should be taken by everyone?
Like Diana quoted, even the material says that these second-density other-selves only have an effect when there is a need of the catalyst. The idea that we need to mass produce something and inject it to the population to me already denotes a lack of faith in the way of things.
Between nature and companies with a focus on wealth, I rather put my faith in nature.
Here's a point that I tend to be confused about when considering the type of question that you ask. Correct me if I'm wrong, please, but the question seems to posit that great faith in the Logos and the design of things would necessarily mean that we don't use the human-made tools available to us. Is that right?
If so, my rejoinder is: Who says that vaccines or really any tool of modern medicine is "outside" of or aberrant to the Logos's design? Who says that there is the "right" or higher way of the Logos, or the Creator, or the Universe, and then there is the "artificial" or wrong way of humanity?
Is not the human a sub-sub-Logos? Or an extension of the Logos? Or an expression of the Creator?
Certainly there is a whole wonderful conversation to be had around the spectrum or more vs. less distorted, more vs. less efficient, lower centers vs. higher enegy centers, materiality vs. spirituality, and STS vs STO in our world.
My point regarding faith was more a reply to the notion that someone who thinks that the vaccine could impact them negatively is denoting a lack of faith in the Logos. If it's really about having faith in the Logos, then I personally trust nature more than man's polarity as it is subject to the extension of free will.
It was not my aim to tell anyone what they should do.
(02-03-2021, 12:47 PM)Steppingfeet Wrote: And on that spectrum one can locate the healing by faith, or the immunity by faith, as a potentially higher expression of beingness, or an activity more congruent with the Law of One. (Ra seems to indicate that there may be a scale of harmony or congruency with the Law of One, despite all things being the Law of One. Duality/Non-duality... a tricky subject to navigate.)
But while accessing intelligent infinity via the gateway is surely the least distorted methodology of living and healing, I don't think that negates the other tools available to us. In fact:
Quote:64.15 Firstly, you must see the possibility/probability that each and every allopathic healer is, in fact, an healer. Within your cultural nexus this training is considered the appropriate means of perfecting the healing ability.
In the most basic sense, any allopathic healer may be seen to, perhaps, be one whose desire is service to others in alleviation of bodily-complex and mental/emotional-complex distortions so that the entity to be healed may experience further catalyst over a longer period of what you call the life. This is a great service to others, when appropriate, due to the accumulation of distortions toward wisdom and love which can be created through the use of the space/time continuum of your illusion.
By "allopathic healer," Ra is speaking of conventional, modern medicine - those who prescribe medications, use the scalpel, administer chemo, run MRIs, send a camera up your butt, etc.
I have faith that miracle healing is possible through faith alone - indeed, normal in non-veiled conditions - but if I had a child suffering from an infection which antibiotics could help, I would not be a Christian Scientist, even if the antibiotic was produced by a profit-driven company.
Likewise, I have faith that verbal communication is ultimately a (strictly speaking) "unnecessary" and distorted alternative to telepathic communication, but unless and until I find a way to send mind-messages to you all, I am going to use the tools of language and writing to communicate, as I will the internet and computer to post this message.
Our opposable thumbs are, strictly speaking, unnecessary for the development of third-density consciousness. Yet, our local sub-Logos designed it such that the third-density beings in its creation would be strongly biased toward the development of outer technologies and space/time manifestations. Shall we not put into the service of humanity that which these thumbies have helped us to create?
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I know that there is significant intersection on this topic with all the profit-driven greed and negative impacts of big pharma. There are systemic issues of non-service-to-others in the chemical industry. I'm sure that the executives at Moderna and Pfizer are not operating from a place of pure altruism. Moreover, there are significant questions about the efficacy of chemical substances to treat that which may be better treated through another modality, particularly as the chemical may just suppress or hide symptoms instead of uncovering the root cause. That cannot be discounted.
But many are the service-to-others oriented scientists and medical professionals in the field working in the service of humanity. Many, many, many are the lives that have been saved by vaccines. Entire diseases have been eradicated thanks to the collective outer manifestation of healing known as vaccines.
And multiple are the stories of people recanting their misplaced faith in immunity-by-belief when covid puts them in the hospital or on their death bed.
My wife is an immunocompromised person. We both attempt to live faithful lives, trusting that all is well, that whatever transpires there are no mistakes, and that all will unfold as it "should," but in no way are we going to undergo (what for us would be) the folly of exposing ourselves to an airborne virus without first teaching the immune system how to defend against it (by way of the instructional code of the vaccine).
We will communicate in advance to these second-density entities that the "catalyst is unneeded."
I don't really have a charged view of vaccines in general, like I said I think everything is relative and one should follow their intuition.
I personally do have faith in my body's ability to adapt and heal itself. Maybe though that's the luxury of being someone with a good immune system. In the case it went bad when contracting the virus, I would still try see an opportunity for spiritual development and meditation when facing the catalyst. I believe Agua's story about having the virus, although a bit hellish, had that kind of attitude of making use the presented opportunity.
Then again, it is for everyone to know their limits and what they can or cannot have faith it. So I'm not really judging nor telling anyone what to do, I merely commented on what I thought having faith in the Logos really means.