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    11-09-2020, 02:31 PM (This post was last modified: 11-09-2020, 02:32 PM by jafar.)
    (11-09-2020, 12:11 PM)peregrine Wrote: "Tested" was meant to be a reference to the Stairs of Light.






    Ra Wrote:82.29 Questioner: You stated in a much earlier session that it is necessary to polarize anything more than 50% service to self to be harvestable fourth-density positive. Was this condition the same at the time before the veil? The same percentage polarization?

    Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.

    The query is not answered easily, for the concept of service to self did not hold sway previous to what we have been calling the veiling process. The necessity for graduation to fourth density is an ability to use, welcome, and enjoy a certain intensity of the white light of the One Infinite Creator. In your own terms at your space/time nexus this ability may be measured by your previously stated percentages of service.

    Prior to the veiling process the measurement would be that of an entity walking up a set of your stairs, each of which was imbued with a certain quality of light. The stair upon which an entity stopped would be either third-density light or fourth-density light. Between the two stairs lies the threshold. To cross that threshold is difficult. There is resistance at the edge, shall we say, of each density. The faculty of faith or will needs to be understood, nourished, and developed in order to have an entity which seeks past the boundary of third density. Those entities which do not do their homework, be they ever so amiable, shall not cross. It was this situation which faced the Logoi prior to the veiling process being introduced into the experiential continuum of third density.

    I somehow got the sense that this 'stair of light' is a metaphor?

    The '4th density' here correlate with the '4th chakra', the heart chakra, and those who choose negative path (STS) somehow 'skipped' the 4th chakra. Maybe it's due to their resistance to 'release' or 'detached' from their 'identity' / the limited self? And or maybe also due to lack of willingness to also attached to another 'identities'? The "Others"... including the soul's own higher self.

    I'm on the understanding that all identities are part of it's own respective higher self including those who are still on STS illusion, thinking that they're separated from others.




    Quote:The point of the post was to speak about how to approach, or how to experience, the soul, and the suggestion is that this is done by exploring and[ freeing up the experience of the various levels of inherent consciousness.

    I understand this as exploring the fragmented soul(s).




    Quote:Yes, that is true at that level of consciousness, but is not so at another level where even identity is surrendered.

    16.22 Questioner: Thank you very much. In previous material, before we communicated with you, it was stated by the Confederation that there is actually no past or future… all is present. Would this be a good analogy?

    Ra: I am Ra. There is past, present, and future in third density. In an overview such as an entity may have, removed from the space/time continuum, it may be seen that in the cycle of completion there exists only the present. We, ourselves, seek to learn this understanding. At the seventh level or dimension, we shall, if our humble efforts are sufficient, become one with all, thus having no memory, no identity, no past or future, but existing in the all.

    Yes, I suppose, but because I'm not involved with a SMC in this particular incarnation, my interest lies more, as I said up above, in communing with the aspect of self which distills from the incarnations the important, essential elements.  I find that approach to--or aspect of--spiritual growth quite compelling.  I also expect it would make one's spiritual work here more efficient.
      

    I think you mean where all identities are surrendered or released. Erasing all the border or limit of the 'self'.
    No more attachment and thus attached to all..
    No more 'them', 'he' or 'she', everything and everyone is "I".

    And Ra hasn't done that either and so does 'higher selves'...
    My understanding of 'higher self' is the finite consciousness's last stage of identification before the ultimate release of all identification.

    My way of experiencing is through the process of 'identifying' and 'de-identifying' my 'self'.

    A simple exercise to try is by creating another 'avatar' on this webforum or another webforum and assume a different identity and personality for that avatar.  And have those avatar discussed thing with each others, and also very interesting to try is to have those avatars to have an argument with one another. I then repeatedly identifying and de-identifying myself to and from the avatars.

    Novelist do this often.. thus they're used to it...
    But without the 'memory / information access limitation' a.k.a the veil of forgetting.

    This was partly inspired by observing a person with D.I.D (Disassociate Identity Disorder).
    Although the 'term' disorder is incorrect, as it actually happened to everyone (and everything).

    The 'specialty' of D.I.D is a person with D.I.D have multiple identification within one body, thus multiple personalities within one body, with the addition of 'memory access limitation' aka 'veil of forgetting'. When a 'personality' came forward the other 'personalities' will fell unconscious and have no memory access to experience as experienced by other personality that came forward.

    Specifically I observe this through this girl's channel on youtube:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6kFD5x...lytv5pTR1w

    Besides 'fragmentation' to many identities, the girl also experienced 'identity and personality merger', she calls it 'integration'. There's an episode where an identity named Chloe and Nina merged into one identity, and the new identity now have access to both Chloe and Nina experiences.

    I take that this will be similar (although not exact) to what happened when an identity / soul merged with it's 'higher self'.
    And if my memory served me well, I think Ra also mentioned the same process (merging with higher self) as part of what happened to an identity / soul after death but I forgot where it is being mentioned.

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