01-28-2011, 04:36 PM
Thanks for your reassurances, Confused.
I would think infinity would imply timelessness, i.e. the "true simultaneity" that Ra mentions. In fact, the separation of the Creation into a time/space and a space/time dichotomy seems to be a key fulcrum of our experience of seemingly leaving and returning to unity. Infinity, to my mind, is start and finish and, in truth, present. Ra emphasizes that we choose this separated illusion, and much of the path of the adept, I believe, is work on remembering the portion of ourselves that made this decision. I think balancing the chakras is essentially a different way of saying the same thing, in a way.
This is a crude metaphor, but metaphor is all we have. I think of our present experience as a video game. When Mario "dies", we don't react as if we, the player, actually "died". We take the experience and try again. But it's not like we're completely unattached to what happens in the game, either - we just know that it has rules and possibilities that are less varied than in the real world. In a way, experiencing this more rigid and constrained world is actually enjoyable, because we can "do" things within the context of the game's premises that aren't simply impossible in our world but are meaningless.
The metaphor would be more perfect if we actually got something out of playing it that could apply in real life; and perhaps some people do (every time I try to play New Super Mario Bros I am working on patience. Big time. I suck at video games.).
More or less. The identity is the pure being of the unified Creation that does not need a dialectic, an action/reaction to be. Everything in our waking world is the result of the interplay of forces, so to speak. But if we identify with the entirety that subsumes all these forces, there is only stillness and potential. That is the Creator's identity (though understand that we stumble towards this and will not understand it fully in this density. I have a model in my head I use to try and make sense, but the most important thing is to have a model-less, direct experience that can transcend understanding).
It depends, I think, because everything leads to that mystery in a certain sense. I think work with chakras is towards crystallization, i.e. the regularization of the energy centers so that energy can flow as uniformly and as unfiltered as possible. Ra says that, starting from the red center, energy rises up through orange, yellow, green, etc. At each layer, we can through our thinking filter out or reject parts of that energy, which affects the light available for working to the higher chakras. It is a sequential filter, in a way. The idea, broadly speaking, is to get as much energy as possible to the indigo center, where the gateway to intelligent infinity lies. This is the best answer I can give to your question without bowing out and saying, "study Ra's words and your own chakras more", which would be a bit of a cop-out.
Good questions! To my mind, merely thinking along these lines, regardless of whether you receive discrete answers, is the real work. Understanding simply is not of this density, but seeking the upward spiraling light in spite of being perpetually in the dark most certainly is.
Thanks. It's not so much that I don't want to look like an ass. It's more that, if I force my way of thinking down your throat, you might be less willing or able to articulate the insights that you can uniquely articulate. And then we all lose. We all have something unique to offer, so it's all about getting out of each other's way without withdrawing support, and it's tricky because egos get involved. I have one of those, as it turns out.
(01-28-2011, 03:27 PM)Confused Wrote: If infinity is the first know thing in creation and is creation, then what was it that remained before infinity (the unknown thing)?
I would think infinity would imply timelessness, i.e. the "true simultaneity" that Ra mentions. In fact, the separation of the Creation into a time/space and a space/time dichotomy seems to be a key fulcrum of our experience of seemingly leaving and returning to unity. Infinity, to my mind, is start and finish and, in truth, present. Ra emphasizes that we choose this separated illusion, and much of the path of the adept, I believe, is work on remembering the portion of ourselves that made this decision. I think balancing the chakras is essentially a different way of saying the same thing, in a way.
This is a crude metaphor, but metaphor is all we have. I think of our present experience as a video game. When Mario "dies", we don't react as if we, the player, actually "died". We take the experience and try again. But it's not like we're completely unattached to what happens in the game, either - we just know that it has rules and possibilities that are less varied than in the real world. In a way, experiencing this more rigid and constrained world is actually enjoyable, because we can "do" things within the context of the game's premises that aren't simply impossible in our world but are meaningless.
The metaphor would be more perfect if we actually got something out of playing it that could apply in real life; and perhaps some people do (every time I try to play New Super Mario Bros I am working on patience. Big time. I suck at video games.).
(01-28-2011, 03:27 PM)Confused Wrote: Is it the 'identity' that you take about?
More or less. The identity is the pure being of the unified Creation that does not need a dialectic, an action/reaction to be. Everything in our waking world is the result of the interplay of forces, so to speak. But if we identify with the entirety that subsumes all these forces, there is only stillness and potential. That is the Creator's identity (though understand that we stumble towards this and will not understand it fully in this density. I have a model in my head I use to try and make sense, but the most important thing is to have a model-less, direct experience that can transcend understanding).
(01-28-2011, 03:27 PM)Confused Wrote: Are the 7-rays and the associated chakras leading into the mystery that 'we do not plumb', a reflection of that unknown first principle?
It depends, I think, because everything leads to that mystery in a certain sense. I think work with chakras is towards crystallization, i.e. the regularization of the energy centers so that energy can flow as uniformly and as unfiltered as possible. Ra says that, starting from the red center, energy rises up through orange, yellow, green, etc. At each layer, we can through our thinking filter out or reject parts of that energy, which affects the light available for working to the higher chakras. It is a sequential filter, in a way. The idea, broadly speaking, is to get as much energy as possible to the indigo center, where the gateway to intelligent infinity lies. This is the best answer I can give to your question without bowing out and saying, "study Ra's words and your own chakras more", which would be a bit of a cop-out.

Good questions! To my mind, merely thinking along these lines, regardless of whether you receive discrete answers, is the real work. Understanding simply is not of this density, but seeking the upward spiraling light in spite of being perpetually in the dark most certainly is.
(01-28-2011, 03:27 PM)Confused Wrote: And Jeremy, I think all are teachers and all are students simultaneously. In that sense, you are a teacher; but I think I understand what you meant
Thanks. It's not so much that I don't want to look like an ass. It's more that, if I force my way of thinking down your throat, you might be less willing or able to articulate the insights that you can uniquely articulate. And then we all lose. We all have something unique to offer, so it's all about getting out of each other's way without withdrawing support, and it's tricky because egos get involved. I have one of those, as it turns out.
