05-13-2009, 05:09 AM
Sincere apologies for being a suspicious bastard...
I've been thinking about this situation for a while. But I don't see the benefit in accepting this man as a true 4d aware entity even if only for the sake of argument. There are many gullible people out there. Discernment is vital and false prophets are abound. It would be a disservice to others to not speak out.
And if Brian believes this himself then it would be a disservice to him.
Dear Brian, again, my apologies for not going along with this. But you must understand the ethical problems concerning your choices. This is a serious matter. If there is any chance where you might misunderstand 4d consciousness, and I think you already admitted to that, then it's highly questionable for you to take the role of a teacher in the matter.
The words you speak can put people who are looking for guidance on the outside on the wrong path and in effect hinder their progress.
You may not feel ethically burdened by this. But I am sincerely bothered. And I would suggest we go back to the point where we were trying to establish if you have or have not achieved 4d consciousness. So far you've given me no other indication than your verbal statements.
At the same time you've connected yourself synchronisticly with duality by choosing to post at exactly 2:22. (The trinity of duality, in other words, duality that expresses itself as the height of duality) And you've also connected yourself synchronisticly with The Life of Brian. A parody of the life of Jesus. And another masterful Monty Python production. You're Brian, and you claim to be expressing Jesus. Is this too a parody of what each of us holds within? The second coming of Christ is within us. It is the awakening of Christ consciousness. Not someone on a forum sending messages to me. Christ himself has foretold this.
You're exhibiting a lot of synchronicity which I would indeed expect with a 4d entity. But the synchronistic messages are warning me. Not inviting me forward.
Could it be that you misunderstand your status as a 4d entity? Could it be that you've been hit by the proverbial gods lightning and are mistaking the potentially extreme events that go with the experience of kundalini rising as being a 4d entity... This has happened thousands of times before, the dangers of unguided awakening of Kundalini have been well documented.
During my initiation into Sufism, in other words, at the point I made God my beloved, I released the same energy you speak about. It was so strong that my initiator was completely surprised by the strength of it, and the person I had asked to be my witness was crying because of it. *I* released this energy. I know this because I have felt my other selves somehow aligning starting days before the event. When walking to the place of work I felt like I was walking there in thousands of different times simultaneously. Yet I am no 4d entity and would never claim to be at least until I've established this beyond doubt.
All I ask those present is that the decision to take Brian seriously is one that is taken with discernment and wisdom. And that the alternative that he himself is possibly a victim of his own yogic successes is taken into account.
All I ask of Brian is to seriously address these issues and to question his own motives. And not cause potential confusion by posting messages like this. At least until the matter is sorted out.
Love does not require agreement. Criticism IS a service. And failing to discern can hurt all parties involved. Including the bring4th forum as an entity.
I'm certain Brian has libraries of wisdom to share. And I personally would like access to it without the hassle of playing the "Hey you 4d entity dude" games.... And whatever the outcome you are our brother Brian. We will treat you with the love and respect that is your birthright, even when we disagree.
I've been thinking about this situation for a while. But I don't see the benefit in accepting this man as a true 4d aware entity even if only for the sake of argument. There are many gullible people out there. Discernment is vital and false prophets are abound. It would be a disservice to others to not speak out.
And if Brian believes this himself then it would be a disservice to him.
Quote:Our general impression is that many, many people associated with this site are capable of evolution toward 4th density, which was what prompted this response. However the free will associated with you current “understanding” of this material may be hindering your progress. We would strongly suggest that if you wish to evolve you ask to do so.Lets be honest, this is kicking down an open door whilst acting like a new age channel. The least among us could have constructed this statement.
Dear Brian, again, my apologies for not going along with this. But you must understand the ethical problems concerning your choices. This is a serious matter. If there is any chance where you might misunderstand 4d consciousness, and I think you already admitted to that, then it's highly questionable for you to take the role of a teacher in the matter.
The words you speak can put people who are looking for guidance on the outside on the wrong path and in effect hinder their progress.
You may not feel ethically burdened by this. But I am sincerely bothered. And I would suggest we go back to the point where we were trying to establish if you have or have not achieved 4d consciousness. So far you've given me no other indication than your verbal statements.
At the same time you've connected yourself synchronisticly with duality by choosing to post at exactly 2:22. (The trinity of duality, in other words, duality that expresses itself as the height of duality) And you've also connected yourself synchronisticly with The Life of Brian. A parody of the life of Jesus. And another masterful Monty Python production. You're Brian, and you claim to be expressing Jesus. Is this too a parody of what each of us holds within? The second coming of Christ is within us. It is the awakening of Christ consciousness. Not someone on a forum sending messages to me. Christ himself has foretold this.
You're exhibiting a lot of synchronicity which I would indeed expect with a 4d entity. But the synchronistic messages are warning me. Not inviting me forward.
Could it be that you misunderstand your status as a 4d entity? Could it be that you've been hit by the proverbial gods lightning and are mistaking the potentially extreme events that go with the experience of kundalini rising as being a 4d entity... This has happened thousands of times before, the dangers of unguided awakening of Kundalini have been well documented.
During my initiation into Sufism, in other words, at the point I made God my beloved, I released the same energy you speak about. It was so strong that my initiator was completely surprised by the strength of it, and the person I had asked to be my witness was crying because of it. *I* released this energy. I know this because I have felt my other selves somehow aligning starting days before the event. When walking to the place of work I felt like I was walking there in thousands of different times simultaneously. Yet I am no 4d entity and would never claim to be at least until I've established this beyond doubt.
All I ask those present is that the decision to take Brian seriously is one that is taken with discernment and wisdom. And that the alternative that he himself is possibly a victim of his own yogic successes is taken into account.
All I ask of Brian is to seriously address these issues and to question his own motives. And not cause potential confusion by posting messages like this. At least until the matter is sorted out.
Love does not require agreement. Criticism IS a service. And failing to discern can hurt all parties involved. Including the bring4th forum as an entity.
I'm certain Brian has libraries of wisdom to share. And I personally would like access to it without the hassle of playing the "Hey you 4d entity dude" games.... And whatever the outcome you are our brother Brian. We will treat you with the love and respect that is your birthright, even when we disagree.