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    11-14-2019, 09:15 PM
    On second thought, it may be best to summarize more of my current big picture view before digging further into the details. The following part is worth emphasizing:

    "Early Cassiopaean accuracy was explained as, "balancing fields are correct", which Laura interpreted as STS "Frank" vs. STO Laura cancelling out, allowing 6D STO through in the days of early participants. But STS constricts and distorts the flow, so a compromise combination of the two does not explain it. But two opposed STS agendas cancelling out logically works. "Frank" left after the mid-90's, leaving one of the two STS agendas not cancelled out..."

    This is key to what I think that Montalk has missed: The "later Laura" is very much the same in essence as the "earlier Laura". The transition Montalk described may simply be a logical step in the unfolding of a life plan.

    (11-10-2019, 06:10 PM)Kaaron Wrote:
    (11-10-2019, 03:45 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: The Cassiopaean take on it was that the information came from non-human sources "known for stark accuracy when convenient". This somewhat ambiguous description makes the point that 4D STS can deliver accurate information when they find it convenient for their purposes.

    Is the information positive or negative? If accurate, it is positive in terms of contributing to understanding of reality, and regardless, it also fits into a 4D STS plan related to psycho-social engineering.
    I agree that is is psycho-social engineering. It may seem positive...because it is accurate. The question that comes of this, for me, is would that future have manifested, had the recipient not been given the information by what it considers, a positive source?
    If they aren't sufficiently balanced, due to unconcious distortions within the self, it becomes a way of convincing the channel, that it is.
    Rather than request one goes within, finds their OWN truth...they are usurping this possibility and appearing to be in tune to a reality...that is ultimately, subjective.

    A good idea found in the Cassiopaean material is that all experiences have the potential for both positive and negative outcomes. It's a matter of how things are responded to, what choices are made - which depends on the people receiving something, what they are able or not able to choose, and what they ultimately end up doing.

    The more strongly people are centered in a polarity, the more strongly they are able to turn things they face, from whatever source, into something which supports their most fundamental choices (including ones related to polarity). So a good way of trying to figure out the polarity of strongly polarized beings may be to examine the ultimate results when highly polarized things reach them. (That kind of guesswork can sometimes be misleading concerning 3D and even 4D minds, but becomes more reliable the greater the knowledge of participants, and even more reliable when the participants are of higher densities, I think.)

    In short, when such psycho-social engineering reaches the masses who are stuck in the sinkhole of indifference, it will probably go as the minds behind it calculated, if they calculated well. But with extremely well-educated people who are supposedly very strongly positive, there is little room for excuses. Something is probably very wrong with their claims to positivity if the ultimate outcome is negative.

    Actually, there are hints and clues to Laura in periods #2 and #3 (referring back to the three periods I described) concerning the greater need for a quieter time of inspired deeper contemplation. But the overall focus maintained is not maintained merely through 3D-stubbornness; various other information makes this clear. (It is also claimed in the early years that STO help from densities 4-6 have been available to them all along, and that they are never "cut off" from help. And where there is a positive will, there is a positive way, if there is openness to that.)

    (11-10-2019, 06:10 PM)Kaaron Wrote: I feel the Cassiopaean material is an attempt to corrupt the Ra material.
    Start off similar...then add the lie. I won't assume that it STARTED as such, but it's highly likely. What could possibly be gained, by adding to a work that was MORE than thorough, when speaking of a focus on the creator and all as one, as being the most efficacious method of being.
    The prophecy and focus on physical events...is in DIRECT CONTRAST to what Ra was proposing, as a beneficial way of being

    It is actually very reasonable to view the outcome that way. If you view the polarities and other fundamental matters more in terms of Ra's descriptions than the layers of re-interpretations, added one by one throughout the years, it seems to me like the only way to take everything into account.

    I do think that Don actually over-compensated in the area of avoiding transient information. (The Cassiopaean channeling does the opposite.) It was other matters, not examined thoroughly enough in time, which led to the great vulnerability exploited to bring about the tragic end of the Ra contact. Tobey at lawofone.info gives a great clue, when describing how the pace quickened and Ra seemed "enthusiastic" about elaborating on the archetypal mind and related information. There were probably missing keys in that area to a better outcome.

    Comparing with Ra's message, there are some useful elaborations in the Cassiopaea material (and also much valuable information amassed by the community in later years), but it is part of a distorted and corrupted whole. The best approach to a larger synthesis I can think of is to start from the cleaner foundation of the Law of One material, and then see what fits and can be added into the picture, without making excuses for inconsistencies. (Working in this direction may reverse the outcome of the corruption of Ra's message. It certainly makes for a very different, and larger, big picture.)

    Early Cassiopaean accuracy was explained as, "balancing fields are correct", which Laura interpreted as STS "Frank" vs. STO Laura cancelling out, allowing 6D STO through in the days of early participants. But STS constricts and distorts the flow, so a compromise combination of the two does not explain it. But two opposed STS agendas cancelling out logically works. "Frank" left after the mid-90's, leaving one of the two STS agendas not cancelled out...

    Among other big lies to consider, potential candidates include:
    - The basic nature of Laura's spirituality. She described a personal, early initiation in terms of facing a universe of darkness, responding to a call, and choosing to "become the light". Perceptive people have claimed that she has "the light" in her. But what kind of "light"? Wisdom is, in itself, polarity-neutral.
    - The Cassiopaean redefinition of 5D, in such a way that 5D STS is obscured and a smaller picture of the cosmos results than from Ra's message. Though Laura's writings, e.g. The Wave, do take the highest-level "entropic overlords" into account.

    I'm also convinced of the basic error in judging souls by how their physical brain-minds work. "Subjectivity" in 3D becomes a sign of negativity, and mental degeneration a sign of permanent "soul smashing". (A large-scale smashing of souls is predicted as of later years, but at the same time, it is still claimed that the Universe is a safe place to be.)

    (11-10-2019, 06:10 PM)Kaaron (bold), me (plain) Wrote: Finally, the metaphorical idea I had of a "spiritual ice age" is rather vague, so here's an attempt to make some sense of it.

    Plenty of energy and information will be transmitted into the world by positive sources, in response to a general call for help, if this is not prevented by higher-D negative parties. I don't feel they can prevent any help, which is proportionate to the call. They can offer the opposite opportunity, but the call and response cannot be prevented. I feel you were speaking to this...I just want to clarify the point, for others reading. Ra's big picture view of the future, like that of the early Cassiopaean material, implies that such grand designs on higher-density control will fail in this little part of the cosmos.
    I'm curious as to why you feel they imply it will fail? I feel like they have implied that no entity has successfully bridged the STS path into the Higherself realms of upper 6D. This doesn't mean it isn't possible, or that they will fail. I feel like this all depends on our choices and free will.

    Temporary prevention is possible, as in what led to the premature end of the Ra contact. I think that when such things happen, there may be a delay, but 6D STO will treat censorship (also when in less drastic forms) as damage to a communication network and find a way to route around it.

    The prediction of the future provided is that of a world which may be wobbly in the polarity of its 4D areas for some time, but where the remaining 4D areas ultimately are part of a positive future 4D "planet". Those who succeed in growing into 4D negatively then go to other places where the environment suits their nature, following their last incarnation here, instead of becoming a lasting part of Earth's future.

    Currently, I trust the prediction. It makes sense in that the larger portion of those who succeed in growing into 4D will end up positive, and positive higher-D beings (including those who come to assist) working together makes for a considerable, and probably decisive, "force".

    (11-10-2019, 06:10 PM)Kaaron Wrote:
    (11-10-2019, 03:45 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: The big open question is what the ratio will be between people actually being able to receive help and make use of it, vs. chaos and entropy increasing when energy currents grow strong without being handled or responded to constructively. There's probably some kind of engineering trade-off considered by higher-D positive beings, in terms of maximizing availability of help for those who can receive it, vs. minimizing accidental harm to others (e.g. things heating up too much and "frying").

    I'm not sure what you mean here. The call and response, is a technology of emotion and free will. The creator is all...

    I had in mind that people, and parts of psychic landscapes, are interlinked in such a way that when energy and information is sent somewhere, it spreads.

    Unusable "heat" may result when energy pours from where it does most help to other surrounding people and psychic areas.

    I think considerations of what may end up fueled through what people are connected to may lead to the call being answered sooner in some cases than in others. Those best prepared to receive help may get it sooner, as the outcome is more harmonious, and they can then, to the extent they are able, in turn join those who help.

    Perhaps in a few cases, maybe in response to an unusual need, the flow turns on and energy and information will pour in, but when choices made by people in the environment in response lead to negative outcomes, the flow may need to be turned off again, or perhaps re-routed somehow.

    (11-10-2019, 06:10 PM)Kaaron Wrote:
    (11-10-2019, 03:45 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: What negative forces will try and fail to do is to snatch consciousnesses, beings, and/or other higher-density "things" used for transmission, in order to get "wealthy" in their own peculiar terms while there is misery and "starvation" for all below them. (Smaller and temporary STS successes of that kind may happen, but will not remain sustainable.)

    this is all they have done. I don't see it changing.

    It is an old pattern, but I basically meant that they will try to increase the scale, change the big picture of the future outcome for Earth, making it a fully integrated part of a higher-D "empire". But the only way a big shift of that kind is possible is through elaborate deceptions meant to conquer minds and souls here to provide help, and that's a gamble, as it can backfire. The hierarchical nature of higher-D STS however means that wherever 4D STS is, 5D STS is also active - and that's the type of mind which would aim straight for such conquest.

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