06-04-2019, 04:17 PM
(06-04-2019, 04:04 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:(06-04-2019, 03:48 PM)krb Wrote:Quote:I don't think dairy is a problem if we have an unadulterated source... just like meat.
Jade, in the context I was writing in and what was in my mind while writing those words:
I was referring to our consumption of unadulterated dairy and meat products vs. what the industries do to them. In their original, intended form, they are "healthy" and will support life as opposed to processed products that impair health. In the pre-industrial era, people led healthy lives on organic/unadulterated animal products for thousands of years.
I'm not going to get into the moral aspect of what goes on now. I understand and am sympathetic to all the concerns you've brought up.
No problem... you interpreted that sentence you've quoted from me different from my intended meaning. That happens in this form of communication. I hope I've cleared things up.
I guess I just misunderstood how taking a mother's milk from her child at all is "unadulterated". I'm of the understanding that dairy requires this type of "adulteration" to actually exist. I realize now that you must mean adulteration through processing. I'm talking more in a meta sense of adulterating the basic natural order. If we step back and actually look at what we are doing to animals as a symbolic analog for how we treat almost everything on this planet, I think intentionally impregnating an animal and killing her child so that we can drink her milk is kind of the most heinous thing you can do.
Yes, I did mean the adulteration of the product (milk) by the industrial processes of pasteurization/homogenization. I am strictly talking about the health effects of what is the result of un-natural industrial processes to the food chain.
Again, I "get it" with the points you bring up. In the pre-industrial era, I don't think people killed the calf to get some milk from the mother. I'm sure they let the calf nurse and still had some milk for themselves. I'm not for factory/industrial farms. Yes, everything now is distorted.