05-12-2019, 02:55 PM
(05-12-2019, 10:45 AM)flofrog Wrote:(05-12-2019, 05:30 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Dude, you pull out a bunch of old ass quotes from dudes hundreds of years ago, like they matter in the 21st century and use them to argue feminism is needed. No, feminism WAS needed. Women have equality now.
And as for the chalkboard...
It doesn't prove women need feminism because you forgot one important factor in the equation: The utter uselessness and ineffectiveness of your modern feminist. Case in point: Feminists complaining about "rape culture" in college campuses and then insisting we let in refugees from cultures where raping women is commonly accepted. Stupid. But hey, they're sure to fix the problem by giving us all mandatory consent classes so we can learn how to not rape people. Because it's a very confusing subject for the rapist, clearly. Never mind the sexism inherent in these classes, they're stopping rape on campuses... somehow. Yeah, I don't think we need feminists for s***.
EP,
You can’t quite say that... added to the crudeness of any quote, relaxo was quoting many contemporary authors anyway.
Norman Mailer saying that a little bit of rape is good for the man.s soul is really impossible to digest when you think of it
I think in the end the incredible physical and mental pain, plus terror, that a woman will feel when she will be raped is the explanation of feminism. It is a fact that in most cases a woman ‘s strength will not be enough to protect her..
And you cannot really link to stupidity the fact of rape and the issue of immigration...
Let us agree that feminism like any movement may make errors, but again, think for one moment, even if you are a man, what is the pain of a woman who is raped. Think if it were your mother. Raped in front of you if you were still a child.
Love you EP
I can speak to this having been raped. It is a type of mind bending hell. And though I was very strong, athletic in fact I couldn't get away, I couldn't run fast enough and he caught me. Now, we can all agree this was catalyst but to a 14 year old is was something else. And this is where men and women differ. He was much faster, stronger and over powered me. And this is where I agree with the other side. Nothing was done to him because of the way society was structured at that particular time. I was to blame. Roll that around in your head for 5 minutes. What was done to me took years to understand and forgive. What was done to him, he went back to work the next day.
I do not hold sides either way. Both are valid. Both need to be examined.