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    05-11-2019, 10:48 AM
    (05-09-2019, 10:30 PM)Tae Wrote: The bad guys want us to be arguing among ourselves rather than working together regardless of our differences for the good of all life. Bickering with other lightworkers over ideology is a waste of your valuable gift of time to be here on Earth in service to others. We are at our most powerful when we can agree to disagree and keep on doing what we're here to do.

    Notions don't matter, only actions. I of course as a woman in this world have thoughts on this matter, and believe putting energy into it would be falling into a trap we're supposed to be getting stuck in, planted to keep us from doing our work. You're arguing about some walls they gave us. We are ONE experiencing multiplicity. The problem with the system isn't making tweaks to any of the powers that be and the walls they gave us, the problem is that it's not a compassion based service to others crafted on a model of respect, compassion, love... anything else is dressing that's been handed to us by our overlords to distract us from the real issue. Screw feminism. Screw the patriarchy. Screw it all. We NEED to be able to act together as a collective of varying thoughtforms, ideas, experiences, ideals, regardless of how different we may be, if we cannot all come together we will be destroyed or at the very least, subdued through all our mediocre lives.

    I've run into several pieces about varying forms on genderism and somethingarchies and that's all I can think is, this is a distraction, letting us whip it up into any frenzy keeps us from getting our acts together. We need to take responsibility for our selves and stop letting these systems rule our minds.

    You bring up interesting points here, but this is actually a paradox that requires thoughtful and intentional balance. I've heard this rhetoric in activist groups before - in fact, it's a bit ironic, because from what I've seen, "they" would rather we posited YOUR point of view - that we should all just "stop infighting!" What you are suggesting is that those who are being actively oppressed acquiesce to their oppressors. And in my experience, this type of "shutting down" of other people's airing of grievances does nothing but discourage people from speaking up and encourages them to retreat away from the group that silences them. For a cohesive group to exist, there must be no disharmony, which means there has to be a LOT of work - mostly the expression of feelings with as much openhearted patience as possible, and ears to listen. It's excruciating, I know, but it's important work, because every time we step out of our comfort zones to communicate in the microcosm, we are paving the way for it to happen in the collective on a more frequent scale. So if everyone tries to keep their cool, and tries to see both sides of the matter, this can be important work.

    Shutting down and acquiescing and accepting and loving regardless is a noble path, of course. It's the martyr's path, and I'm never one to discourage someone who embraces that in full. But speaking up out of compassion for those who are oppressed is an attempt to move into the blue ray - an attempt I definitely could use a lot of practice with. To co-create a reality that we see as more harmonious, those who feel disharmony need to speak up. If we are seeking harmony for all, then those who exist in harmony shouldn't be angry at those who are "causing disharmony" - we are working together. Disharmony goes both ways, you can't blame it on someone or some social movement outside of you and say "that's not my problem". The problem belongs to all of us, so no one is exempt from addressing it.

    Ra gives us two options in this type of scenario. If we see someone who we disagree with and who we believe is potentially offering a negative or otherwise unhealthy viewpoint, we can either encourage them in their perfection of the moment, or "offer truth in love".

    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. We may only suggest that the honor of propinquity to light carries with it the Law of Responsibility. The duty to refrain from contumely, discord, and all things which, when unresolved within, make way for workings lies before the instrument of which you speak. This entity may, if it is desired by the scribe, share our comments upon the working of the latter entity.

    The entity which is given constant and unremitting approval by those surrounding it suffers from the loss of the mirroring effect of those which reflect truthfully rather than unquestioningly. This is not a suggestion to reinstate judgment but merely a suggestion for all those supporting instruments; that is, support, be harmonious, share in love, joy, and thanksgiving, but find love within truth, for each instrument benefits from this support more than from the total admiration which overcomes discrimination.

    Trust me, as a woman, I too, feel the pressure to just sit back, shut up, and love regardless, because heaven forbid I cause more disharmony. But when I come here, I also feel a responsibility to at least say something when I see the culture of this forum shifting ever more to a polarized place. I'm probably not going to be able to stop it all alone, but I have to say something, for all those poor people (especially women, trans people, etc) who stumble upon these forums (and never post!) hoping to find a beacon of love and light and only finding a regurgitation of some of the most toxic forms of judgement and oppression. To all of you out there, I'm sorry.

    And I'm also, again, sincerely very sorry to the men! I'm so sorry for all of us, we are deep in this game! I hope some day you can see it's the same system of oppression that is holding all of us down. I'm not accusing anyone in this thread of being perpetrators of any sort of direct oppression, but I want them to realize that they are participating in the same rhetoric and thought structure that allows oppression to occur. When we put value on "physical strength" or any other extremely obvious manifestation of power (like wealth or freaky STEM intelligence), we continue to perpetuate that those who have other less visible skills are less valuable. EVERYONE is important and valuable to society, that is the whole point of unconditional love - your apparent value is meaningless, because your true value is infinite. And that means everyone deserves the free will to express themselves in whatever ways they want, even if it goes against the grain of "gender norms". It's only when we can step outside of our deeply ingrained societal programming (separation) about these things that we can move forward to become a more harmonious group entity.

    My husband has a physical disability. When the main argument that I see in this thread over and over is "men are physically stronger so they are more valuable!" it doesn't just bother me because it's sexist against women, but because it also oppresses other men, too! This isn't about me crying because I can't lift a motorbike, it's because I see rhetoric being used that oppresses ALL OF US! - except, of course, those who win the genetic lottery. This isn't about one gender vs. another, it's about all of us who are oppressed fighting (together!) against those who oppress us. Have you ever examined why you believe these things - many of them contradictions? Do they actually serve you?


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    Feminism is about a 5 year old, thought. - by Cyan - 04-13-2019, 03:49 PM
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    RE: Feminism is about a 5 year old, thought. - by Louisabell - 04-13-2019, 08:35 PM
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    RE: Feminism is about a 5 year old, thought. - by David_1 - 04-24-2019, 08:59 AM
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    RE: Feminism is about a 5 year old, thought. - by kristina - 05-07-2019, 01:16 PM
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    RE: Feminism is about a 5 year old, thought. - by Minyatur - 05-08-2019, 09:30 AM
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