05-09-2019, 01:34 PM
Let's take a look at what Q'uo has to say, shall we?
Cited from: http://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues..._0204.aspx
The question:
The question appears a bit loaded and Jim/Q'uo address that.
Q'uo mentions that this is a fundamental part of our current experience.
Here Q'uo talks about the archetypical bias there is in seeing the "reaching/taking" (male) principle as more valuable than the "magnetic/receiving" (female) principle.
Q'uo says that all of us who are incarnate must deal with this imbalance, because it is so pervasive, and that part of the path of the male gender is learning humility in the face of imperviousness.
And then Q'uo says that in general, incarnated males are here to work with the energies of the male principle and incarnated females are here to embody and manifest the energies of the female principle, and this is a choice we make when we incarnate.
Okay, so here Q'uo says that men are basically mad that women are sneaky liars (the hidden/veiled/female principle), but it's merely a reflection of their own dishonesty.
Here Q'uo says that basically, the societal and long term subjugation of the female principle has snowballed into a severe distortion in how the female is able to express itself, and further polarizes the separation of the two principles. IMO this thread is guilty of perpetuating this type of energy - saying that we don't want women to express themselves in a certain way (through the concept of feminism).
These next passages ring in my head often and bring me much comfort. "There is remedial work of a fairly significant nature that must be done" - this means that yes, we must go back to kindergarten to figure this stuff out - BOTH (all) sexes.
And this one. Remember, this part is being channeled by Steve, a man who is well into his 60s. Let me tell you what, it feels good to have permission from Q'uo to speak up, in fact, encouragement to speak as loudly as possible. "Sometimes a certain amount of stridency is necessary".
So yeah. What we label as "feminism" is directly a necessary part of healing the planetary energies, and the fact that men are bothered by it is also just the way it's going to be, until they decide to go forward and work with integrating the female principle in a sincere way.
And here Q'uo concludes that working with these energies, bringing the female principle back into a respected place, is a required and "essential" part of our entrance into fourth density.
Again, there is an archetypical message and theme that runs through our whole experience as a planetary entity. The female principle (subconscious mind) has been suppressed and ignored, while the male principle (conscious mind/will) has been favored and celebrated. This is wholly imbalanced because it is the interaction of the two that creates, but this is literally the function of the veil: to hide the "female" principle so that the "male" principle must deliberately seek and find her. And in fact, court her. When people handwave "feminism" away as if it's some inconvenience or gross misunderstanding, they are continuing to perpetuate the subjugation of the female principle.
So forgive me for my stridency, but we really do need to go back to kindergarten on this one. This isn't about equal wages, who cares for the children, or who gets to play in the NFL (lol). It's much greater than that.
But, as were are now here, and my post is over 2,000 words already, here is a short anecdote. We all know what the men in the NFL make - does anyone know what cheerleaders in the NFL make? I do. Most of them make around $2,000 salary in a year. These are also elite athletes at the top of their sport who spend a lot of time off the field doing charity work and promoting the team. But it's considered a "privilege" to be a cheerleader and also just an entry gig into a potentially more lucrative "modeling" or "acting" career - which of course, as a woman, these types of lucrative careers have a very strict age limit. This type of pay discrepancy wouldn't be the case if it wasn't so thoroughly normalized to see female roles as worth less than male roles. It's also a "privilege" to get to play for a top NFL team, but you don't see any men volunteering to play for the Packers for "exposure" and a small stipend, with the hope that if they're good enough they can earn the "big" product endorsement gigs. I'm sure there are men who would be willing to, in fact, but it isn't even considered as an option.
Cited from: http://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues..._0204.aspx
The question:
Quote:In our world today there is a strong bias towards the male polarity. In many religions the Creator is spoken of as being male, and in the English language it is common to use what is called the “male generic,” which is the use of masculine language to refer to both men and women. There is a male, or androcentric [1] bias in society where men are seen as the norm, and women as the other, resulting in discrimination and injustice.
Our question is whether we can expect to see this condition change to a more balanced use of language and status in egalitarian society, as we move further into physical fourth density. Will it come about naturally as paradigms change, or is it something that will require a more active approach?
The question appears a bit loaded and Jim/Q'uo address that.
Quote:We would pause for a moment in order to include our usual favor, which is to ask each to use personal discrimination in evaluating all of our information. Take that which is helpful, leave behind that which is not. This instrument was somewhat in, shall we say, a hurry to move forward with the opening message. Therefore, we shall continue as we had begun. This instrument has difficulty and doubts within its own mind concerning its ability to transmit accurate information this afternoon, for it has its own opinion about the topic under discussion. We have recommended to this instrument to simply let all other thoughts drop by the way for the moment, and to speak that which we give him, without attempting to cover it in any way whatsoever.
Q'uo mentions that this is a fundamental part of our current experience.
Quote:By this time upon your spiritual journey, you have been able to make certain tentatively arrived-at conclusions that give you a base upon which to stand so that you do not face a constant barrage of uncertainty in your daily round of activities, and yet the query which you asked about in this day is one which is fundamental in your experience. For indeed, there is no polarity in the ultimate sense, for all are one being, all are the Creator. In the illusion of separation, all of the Creation may be seen as a distortion of this One Creator.
Here Q'uo talks about the archetypical bias there is in seeing the "reaching/taking" (male) principle as more valuable than the "magnetic/receiving" (female) principle.
Quote:Life upon your Earth then, is the result of the male and female principles interacting. The male and female genders within your third-density illusion reproduce much of these principles of the male and the female, the positive and the negative, the radiant and the magnetic. We however must suggest that, as so much of your illusion is distorted in its representations of the ultimate reality, this is oftentimes an unavoidable distortion, for again, you do not perceive clearly the reality about you, and oftentimes the reality within you, so that the principle of the male and the female is represented in the biological genders becomes reason for, shall we say, discrimination, favoring of one over the other, so that there is not the equal sharing of the creation of the One Creator, but there is the use of the strength of the biological male of the physical sense, to take that which it wishes, and to leave behind that which it does not wish for others.
Q'uo says that all of us who are incarnate must deal with this imbalance, because it is so pervasive, and that part of the path of the male gender is learning humility in the face of imperviousness.
Quote:This is part of the illusion in which you exist. It is part of the catalyst which each entity, both male and female genders must deal. For though it seems that it is most obvious that the biological female is the loser in this equation, we must suggest that there is also another loser if we talk in terms of winners and losers. For by being dominant in a physical sense and taking more than what is its due, the male is given a false sense of superiority which shall eventually lead it in a path which it will discover humility. For that which is not true, in the ultimate sense, will need be balanced in a fashion which may be somewhat difficult for the male gender to appreciate as it sees its efforts becoming less and less effective in providing the framework for an existence that is beneficial not only to it, to its offspring and its own kind, but which produces the world in which you now live, for there is much of the male arrogance in the cultures that are encroaching upon the planetary wellness and unity of all peoples.
And then Q'uo says that in general, incarnated males are here to work with the energies of the male principle and incarnated females are here to embody and manifest the energies of the female principle, and this is a choice we make when we incarnate.
Quote:In a mind/body/spirit complex which is moving through the densities, and in particular in the third density which you now enjoy, it is a necessary and natural function to experience the polarities of male and female with emphasis lying first in the one and then in the other. The primary mode of this emphasis in incarnational experience is that you find yourself incarnated in a body, expressing the female or the male. But even when that is so, each of you still possesses a side representing the principle of the polarity not expressed in your physical form. Each male is female; each female is male. As you engage in that dance, which is your experience of this life and all of its complexities, you will have shadings of the one polarity and shadings of the other polarity, each calling to the other, each expressing itself in relation to the other in such a large myriad of ways, that it beggars description.
Okay, so here Q'uo says that men are basically mad that women are sneaky liars (the hidden/veiled/female principle), but it's merely a reflection of their own dishonesty.
Quote:And we find that there is, in the question that you have asked today, a recognition of a circumstance which we believe to be true—that is to say, upon your planet at this time, there is an insufficient appreciation of the female principle. Now, it happens that insofar as approximately half of the incarnate mind/body/spirit complexes are female, that they have not been without a means of self-expression. And, indeed, this self-expression, we would say from the point of view we occupy, every bit as powerful a force in what is unfolding upon your planet as is its complementary polarity, that being the male. However, the female expression has tended to go, what we might call, “underground.” It has tended to seek expression through means that are somewhat devious because a more honest approach has been denied as a possibility. Now, this deviousness is also found every bit as much in the male, for the male simply is the same as the female in mirror image. It is as dependent upon the female as the female is upon the male. The two belong together inextricably as a portion of the structure of incarnate existence.
Here Q'uo says that basically, the societal and long term subjugation of the female principle has snowballed into a severe distortion in how the female is able to express itself, and further polarizes the separation of the two principles. IMO this thread is guilty of perpetuating this type of energy - saying that we don't want women to express themselves in a certain way (through the concept of feminism).
Quote:And so, when a male reaches out in male desire to the female, and the female calls this desire to itself in ways that are not honest, in ways that are not fully open, in ways, that as we say, are subject to the deviousness of third-density manifestations that have not yet risen to the level of the open heart, it is then that greater and greater distortions are possible. To deny the female its proper place is not simply an act of aggrandizement on the part of the male—an act on the part of the male whereby, as it might be said, the male tries to accrue to itself more than its fair share of recognition in its culture, but it is also a denial on the part of the male of an essential part of itself. And when the female calls to the male in such a way as to confine the male to that portion of its being which lacks the female, then the female, too, is denied that portion of itself, which is already male.
These next passages ring in my head often and bring me much comfort. "There is remedial work of a fairly significant nature that must be done" - this means that yes, we must go back to kindergarten to figure this stuff out - BOTH (all) sexes.
Quote:And so, if we would discover that a significant portion of the female principle has been thrust out from the center of the pattern of spiritual evolution taking place upon a cultural level, there is remedial work of a fairly significant nature that must be done. And so we would agree that in order to take up a relation to this displaced female energy, that it must be brought back into a place of honor, and that is work which will require a good deal of self-reflection, not only on the part of those males which have been party to its repression, but also upon the part of the females that have learned to live within the framework of that repression.
And this one. Remember, this part is being channeled by Steve, a man who is well into his 60s. Let me tell you what, it feels good to have permission from Q'uo to speak up, in fact, encouragement to speak as loudly as possible. "Sometimes a certain amount of stridency is necessary".
Quote:It is a natural expression of this attempt to heal upon a cultural level that those presently embodied in female form might reach out in anger and attempt to claim their rightful place in the center in a way that can seem strident. Sometimes a certain amount of stridency is necessary in order to capture the attention of one who is, shall we say, asleep to a problem, who is not aware of the nature of the problem, of the scope of the problem, of the reach of that problem.
And so, there will be friction that one might legitimately anticipate as the female principle—in the persons of incarnate female individuals—wishes to announce that it cannot continue to be pushed to the margins, and that a balanced configuration of the social complex requires a greater integration of its female portion.
So yeah. What we label as "feminism" is directly a necessary part of healing the planetary energies, and the fact that men are bothered by it is also just the way it's going to be, until they decide to go forward and work with integrating the female principle in a sincere way.
Quote:These are, what you might call, wounds to be healed, so to speak, insofar as they are not welcomed as conditions that wish to be retained and sharpened, but rather are conditions that your men and your women are attempting to surpass. We have suggested that the attempt may, indeed, involve some friction. The attempt may, indeed, involve an over-expression of frustration on the part of the female which has so long been pushed to the margins in your society. An over-expression of this polarity may, indeed, be a legitimate portion of an effort to achieve balance, and it is well for those currently incarnate as males to appreciate the significance of this effort, and perhaps to be a little forgiving when those who are incarnated female bodies feel the need to act out, so to speak, their frustrations.
And here Q'uo concludes that working with these energies, bringing the female principle back into a respected place, is a required and "essential" part of our entrance into fourth density.
Quote:The key to healing, the key to bringing into balance the two dimensions which are essential to your process of evolution at this time is acceptance. This acceptance must begin precisely where it currently finds itself, and that is, you first of all must accept that there is an imbalance, and you must allow that imbalance its sway long enough to begin to love that energy which has felt itself to be pushed out from its center. To reject that energy in its current configuration is merely to create a circumstance in which action will continue to play upon reaction and no genuine healing will be able to take place. And yet, we would say that the commitment to healing will yield, little by little, a greater integration, and the greater the integration, the less one of the polarities will be pushed to the periphery, the more it will be brought in to the center. And the more that does happen, the more the distortions that have come to characterize your relations between the sexes will, indeed, begin to fall away.
We will tell you that there will be no passage into fourth density until this work has been, to a large extent, done. That the doing of this work is essential to this passage, and the repair of the dysfunctions in the relations among the sexes is central to the integration of the social energy complex which governs your planet at this time, and which, in seeking its integration, seeks the first entry into a possibility it has not yet realized, which is to say, that it shall evolve into what we have called a social memory complex.
The development of that complex will be the work of fourth density. You presently stand at the entrance to that density, but there is work to be done, and we feel that in your question today, you have managed to put your finger on an essential element of that work, which suggests to us that you are very much about that work at this time. You would not have been able to identify with such clarity the nature of the problem had you not already been working on that problem for some time and at some depth. So we commend you to that effort and we would say that we have seen signs of a lessening of distortions and a beginning of a greater integration which shows promise.
Again, there is an archetypical message and theme that runs through our whole experience as a planetary entity. The female principle (subconscious mind) has been suppressed and ignored, while the male principle (conscious mind/will) has been favored and celebrated. This is wholly imbalanced because it is the interaction of the two that creates, but this is literally the function of the veil: to hide the "female" principle so that the "male" principle must deliberately seek and find her. And in fact, court her. When people handwave "feminism" away as if it's some inconvenience or gross misunderstanding, they are continuing to perpetuate the subjugation of the female principle.
So forgive me for my stridency, but we really do need to go back to kindergarten on this one. This isn't about equal wages, who cares for the children, or who gets to play in the NFL (lol). It's much greater than that.
But, as were are now here, and my post is over 2,000 words already, here is a short anecdote. We all know what the men in the NFL make - does anyone know what cheerleaders in the NFL make? I do. Most of them make around $2,000 salary in a year. These are also elite athletes at the top of their sport who spend a lot of time off the field doing charity work and promoting the team. But it's considered a "privilege" to be a cheerleader and also just an entry gig into a potentially more lucrative "modeling" or "acting" career - which of course, as a woman, these types of lucrative careers have a very strict age limit. This type of pay discrepancy wouldn't be the case if it wasn't so thoroughly normalized to see female roles as worth less than male roles. It's also a "privilege" to get to play for a top NFL team, but you don't see any men volunteering to play for the Packers for "exposure" and a small stipend, with the hope that if they're good enough they can earn the "big" product endorsement gigs. I'm sure there are men who would be willing to, in fact, but it isn't even considered as an option.