2018_0203 - Spiritual Sleepers

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I'm very curious to know... what do all these "spiritually asleep" people look like from the other side? Are there just throngs of souls floating around in the universe that decide to have an incarnation whereby little to nothing is learned? Why would a soul choose this?

The 'other side' is an illusion system as complex as the physical one we live in, according to what Ra says. Moreover, from Ra material and also other literature (recent spiritual literature, religions, ancient belief systems etc) we understand that this world is a reflection/counterpart to the other one and vice versa. "As above as below" is a saying in christian literature which reflects this i believe.

So those entities would just 'look' (or feel) like whatever reflects their current state on in time/space. Just like how their manners, even clothing or the way they behave and their activities reflect their current state in physical reality. Except according to the illusion system that exists in time/space.

Its not a matter of 'choice'. Everyone does what they seek to do. Its not like they may do something much different and record great progress despite it is not in their capabilities to do so yet, or their time for that has not come.

And in another facet, there is no such thing as 'learning and progressing and succeeding' and attaining 'something better'. Existence is not a race or a ladder of success, in which rewards will be awarded to those who 'succeed'. This is valid for 3d harvest, 4d harvest, whatever landmark you may imagine.

Every entity experiences what it wants to experience and follows a route which it wants to follow. If that route passes from what you call 'asleep mode' on this planet at this point in time, they pass from that juncture. Whereas your route seem to pass from 'pondering and getting appalled at the entities who choose to be in asleep mode' at this point in your journey, and you seem to be passing from that juncture.

That's all there is to it.

I can understand and appreciate your points, however to my perception there appears to be more to it. I have two sticking points, one more directly relavent to this thread and one a bit oblique, but which still comes to bear.

The first: Ra says in 54:24 "The purpose of incarnative existence is evolution of mind, body, and spirit."

I do not feel they are mincing words here, and even made a point to correct a distortion in the Questioner's mind when he stated the purpose of incarnation was to experience catalyst.

So this still does not jive with me. Souls not wishing to evolve are free not to incarnate. And even if they do incarnate, why would they incarnate here/now instead of on some sphere where the catalyst is not so intense?

I guess what I am attempting to grasp is if there is some higher purpose to be served by this "sinkhole" phenomenon other than just creating a drag on the system for everyone else.

The secondary sticking point for me is, while I agree existence is not a "race" the material mentions that the Solar Logos was attempting to "speed up" evolution. This seems like an odd objective for an entity whose beingness transcends time. And it also seems odd that Ra did not mention the purpose for this, unless perhaps it was still a mystery to them.

Considering all the extra trauma and suffering this little "experiment" has resulted in, not to mention its repeated utter failure to attain the stated objective, it seems to me that an explanation of its purpose would be helpful (at least for me) in coming to some sense of equanimity with the situation.

An entire planets worth of souls destroying their home world, becoming stuck in a knot of fear impenetrable by the Highest Light for 100,000 years, and then being relocated to another sphere where they muck up the evolutionary process for everyone else seems like a lot to shoulder for the sake of some kind of cosmic experiment or game.

I am having a really difficult time reconciling the notion of an all-loving and wise Solar Logos with the anomalous situation that has developed here in this Solar System. Frankly, the whole thing seems quite careless to me on the part of the Solar Logos. Unless, perhaps, even a Solar Logos can experience some cosmic correlate of mental illness, I struggle to find a toehold for feeling compassion toward this entity.

I also find it shakes my spiritual faith to the very core, and that I must continually remind myself that our system is but a speck of dust in the larger Creation, where this sort of anomaly is clearly not the norm, in order to stave off thoughts suggesting that both I and this system would be better off without me in it, since the situation appears hopeless and I appear impotent to be of any real service to these entities in the sinkhole.

What may appear like pointless bitching and complaining to you, is me attempting to restore that faith.