05-01-2009, 10:10 PM
Personally I think the assertions made by Ishkabibil are in line with TLOO.
Perhaps those assertions need elaboration, but I for one was a TLOOer before I was a Wilcock fan, and I find everything David says EXCEPT for a few points to be in line with the TLOO.
The main thing David was wrong about was the idea of STO people being beamed aboard a ship in some kind of pretribulation rapture. I think this was a negative entity that snuck into some of his channeling.
Since doing this channeling in 1999 however, David has recanted this statement and is now in favor of a very different (but more complex) theory on specifically how The Harvest happens, a theory that is much more in line with TLOO.
This is why I suspect that you (Quantum) read Ishkabibils stuff a long time ago, because Ishkawhat hasn't supported the pre-trib-rapture-via-UFO since the 90s. I'm guessing you used to argue with him on Hoagland's website.
His stuff now is much improved for my tastes. All the conspiracy stuff may sound at first glance to be fear based but it really is not. David is always supporting a positive view of the future. We don't have to get lost in despair just because we recognize the existence of evil.
You don't make evil go away by closing your eyes and refusing to see it. Evil is not an opinion, it's a fact, and the evidence is physical evidence, not opinion. We can recognize that it exists and reject the service that it offers without succumbing to fear or hatred.
I might sound like a fear-based conspiracy theorist and I can see how some would think that, but I'm not in a fear-based mood whatsoever. I'm in a TRUTH based mood and a HOPE based mood -- truth because I respect the truth and am not scared of speaking it boldly and hope because even though the truth has negative parts, I also see the positive parts. STS people exist but they are not in control and they are in fact losing power as we speak. This isn't an "opinion" this is based on facts. I understand if some people aren't interested in politics, but I don't understand why some people would close their eyes to the truth simply because they don't like what the truth has to say.
I guess my point for Quantum was just that all the stuff Ishkawhat says these days is in line with my interpretation of TLOO. (And I've read it multiple times over in great excruciating detail.)
Perhaps those assertions need elaboration, but I for one was a TLOOer before I was a Wilcock fan, and I find everything David says EXCEPT for a few points to be in line with the TLOO.
The main thing David was wrong about was the idea of STO people being beamed aboard a ship in some kind of pretribulation rapture. I think this was a negative entity that snuck into some of his channeling.
Since doing this channeling in 1999 however, David has recanted this statement and is now in favor of a very different (but more complex) theory on specifically how The Harvest happens, a theory that is much more in line with TLOO.
This is why I suspect that you (Quantum) read Ishkabibils stuff a long time ago, because Ishkawhat hasn't supported the pre-trib-rapture-via-UFO since the 90s. I'm guessing you used to argue with him on Hoagland's website.
His stuff now is much improved for my tastes. All the conspiracy stuff may sound at first glance to be fear based but it really is not. David is always supporting a positive view of the future. We don't have to get lost in despair just because we recognize the existence of evil.
You don't make evil go away by closing your eyes and refusing to see it. Evil is not an opinion, it's a fact, and the evidence is physical evidence, not opinion. We can recognize that it exists and reject the service that it offers without succumbing to fear or hatred.
I might sound like a fear-based conspiracy theorist and I can see how some would think that, but I'm not in a fear-based mood whatsoever. I'm in a TRUTH based mood and a HOPE based mood -- truth because I respect the truth and am not scared of speaking it boldly and hope because even though the truth has negative parts, I also see the positive parts. STS people exist but they are not in control and they are in fact losing power as we speak. This isn't an "opinion" this is based on facts. I understand if some people aren't interested in politics, but I don't understand why some people would close their eyes to the truth simply because they don't like what the truth has to say.
I guess my point for Quantum was just that all the stuff Ishkawhat says these days is in line with my interpretation of TLOO. (And I've read it multiple times over in great excruciating detail.)