01-08-2019, 01:18 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-08-2019, 03:35 AM by redchartreuse.)
Quote:At some point you may wish to consider the idea that you are completely missing the lesson here.
No worries, I am incessantly considering the idea that I am completely missing the lesson here, simply by virtue of my still being here.
Quote:Of course, from the standpoint of logical construction, there is no end to positive and negative, but "rising above it" through detachment (enough is enough) is neither here nor there vis-a-vis the spiritual lesson being offered.
Why not? Maybe the lesson is that there was never anything to "learn". Why would a being born of love, whose very being is fashioned from love itself, need to learn how to be that which it already is?
And even besides all that, one need not be swimming in a sea of suffering (both of self and others) in order to experience itself as love.
Quote:The lesson is about whether or not your being vibrates mainly with 3d concerns for personal outcome or whether it vibrates with encompassing love, a love greater than your concern for personal outcome.
I don't follow. You are saying that one must "love while suffering" in order to learn that 3D personal concerns aren't the end-all-be-all of existence?
There is no need for concern regarding the outcome of our 3D lives, since it is both inevitable and identical to all. Our body dies. Ashes to ashes; dust to dust. Hopefully, somewhere along the way, we have made the choice that we came here to make so that we may go on our merry way to the next adventure. But choosing a service-to-others philosophy need not have anything to do with the alleviation of suffering, either of self or for others.
Rather, it appears to me that those of us who have chosen the service-to-self path are the ones who require other-selves to "choose to suffer" of their own so-called "free will" so that they continue to reap the harvest of negative emotion (fear, despair, anger) which they can then leverage in order to exert further control and dominance, all the while convincing others that suffering is a "necessary evil" or even "for their own good." It is the so-called "dark side" that requires suffering, i.e. the degradation of free will, in order to operate. And as long as the "light side" is willing to play along, it will continue indefinitely.
This degradation of free will is, for example, what pedophiles do while they are grooming children to be victims. Step by step, they get them to "agree" to more and more boundary violations until they can no longer tell the difference between what feels right and wrong to them. Perhaps even to the point where they openly "ask" to be abused by the perpetrator.
Quote:Details about the quantity of suffering in the Universe are not so compelling compared to this lesson your soul desires you to learn.....in my opinion.
Huh, really? See to my view, I think we would do very well to keep in in the forefront of our mind that the degree of suffering going on here is not, by any means, typical of the Creation at large. Lest we become complacent in normalizing and allowing extraordinary levels of suffering to deepen and spread, both for others and for ourselves. Let's not forget, there's plenty of plain vanilla suffering at the ready for any physical being trying to survive and reproduce out there in the Creation. It works just fine and has withstood the many passings of ages, on a near infinite number of worlds.
Our Solar Logos is experimenting with the "standard model" for spiritual evolution by thickening the veil and the furthering the distortion of free will with the aim of "speeding up" the process. Yet the apparent outcome of this experiment seems to be an environment of extreme suffering and low vibrations and with a large swath of the population languishing in the "sinkhole of indifference" at the close of a major cycle.
It is entirely possible that, in retrospect, the lesson learned from this whole "growth through suffering" thing will have been to never do it again. Causing an excessively large portion of the souls to miss the harvest and repeat a major cycle certainly does not appear to me to be congruent with the goal of "speeding up" spiritual growth. And earth isn't even the first planet in this system to suffer this. Ra says that two other planets which also resulted in exceedingly low harvests, and with one resulting in the physical destruction of a planet, and with ours on the brink of destruction, and resulting in an unprecedented level of intervention stretching all the way to the next octave.
If we have not yet sufficiently learned to love amidst all this "free will" that has been heavily distorted toward suffering, then surely piling on even more isn't going to help the issue. We are spiritual children, many of us still in a highly traumatized state, and just because we "choose to suffer" does not mean it is a wise choice, or a healthy choice. And just because our Solar Logos has taken a particularly libertine parenting philosophy that permits us to "choose our own manner of suffering" does not mean that is a wise or healthy form of spiritual parenting either, as perhaps could be seen against a wider backdrop of other philosophies deployed by different Solar Logoi in other systems throughout the Creation.