(12-16-2018, 02:02 PM)Cainite Wrote:(12-16-2018, 12:38 PM)Glow Wrote: I think we forgive in layers as we heal. He may have forgave himself but was it a bone deep forgiveness that he afforded others or was it like many of us do. We afford others the forgiveness we cannot fully give ourself.Indeed!
At that moment of extreme catalyst he may have fully come to see himself in those who were now causing his death and because of that his forgiveness could be complete.
For sure, those of us who grew up in the modern areas of massive propaganda and brainwash.
Those who were dragged in childhood into the Catholic church , where you were from childhood brainwashed that you are born in sin. This is one of the largest twists in the current version of "the Bible" (there's lots of others).
Some also grew up in atheist propaganda . Which is also bad.
And some grew up in the capitalist propaganda (greed is good, capitalism is "good" and the best etc.) basically, worshipers of Mammon , the money god.
We all need to heal.
If you look at it as if you really was not doing any sins. You were born, or reincarnated, into this, specifically, to learn something. What is this something that YOU need to learn. Not "I can't forgive myself for ...." for sure. Because at the moment and time you were taking a specific action, you only had circumstances and experience to do what you did, that was the best decision. You could not do any different.