12-19-2010, 03:54 PM
(12-19-2010, 02:34 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:Sure, taken from here:(12-19-2010, 12:08 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Also, take a look at his "pre/trans" fallacy. Many people in these forums, including Carla/Q'uo, have fallen for it when evaluating tribal culture (as being in a high or even the last subdensity. Evolving up the density does require, at some point, reaching transpersonal development. But the tribal stage is still operating within participation mistique or beginning stages of experience in this realm.
Huh? I totally didn't understand. Can you explain?
...if one is sympathetic with higher or mystical states, but one still confuses pre and trans, then one will elevate all prerational states to some sort of transrational glory (the infantile primary narcissism, for example, is seen as an unconscious slumbering in the mystico unio). Jung and his followers, of course, often take this route, and are forced to read a deeply transpersonal and spiritual status into states that are merely indissociated and undifferentiated and actually lacking any sort of integration at all.
(12-19-2010, 02:34 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: And are you saying Q'uo has 'fallen for' it? (whatever 'it' is which is the part I don't understand.)That is my understanding from reading the sessions. By 'it', I meant the mistake of confusing prepersonal (early development) with transpersonal (later development). Don't get me wrong, I too resonate with the material and I know it takes a high vibration to receive this info. But I am certain this mistake or fallacy was made and is still being made. (Sorry, I don't have the session date handy.)
Very simply: mystical states are achievable without development (or polarization) through what Ra calls the subdensities, yet these states have been confused as being the result of such development.