On the minor arcana

[EvolvingPhoenix]

yeah - those are some good thoughts for sure EP.

Totally agree.

The framework that Ra laid out for the first 22 cards just makes *total sense*.  It got me into the tarot, in the same way that their psychological explanation of the energy centers got me into the chakras.  Before Ra's commentary on these 'systems', I was not at all interested in delving deeper  into these particular traditions - and in some way - there's very little supporting material for the frameworks that Ra laid out.  They just have a different structural understanding of things that is beautifully coherent (at least in my eyes).

So yeah - for sure - definitely work with what they offered.

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this recent excursion of mine (into the minor arcana) is just to see what fruit lies in these other cards that we have.

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thanks for mentioning some of those other decks.  I guess there's hundreds of them out there!

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re: the Thoth cards ... there's definitely some imbalanced energy underlying some of the artwork and concepts conveyed.  Like the movements aren't 'complete'.  But in terms of providing an alternative take on things, it can definitely trigger some thoughts.  And catalyst being what it is - it can be turned to positive, negative, or unutilised ends.

Cheers for the thoughts!

Totally! And I agree with what you say! In fact, my interest in these other decks is because I'm interested in alternative takes.

MY original interest in the tarot was not actually LOO material, but the forums on Subliminal shop. The head of Indigo Mind LAbs, Shannon Matteson also has a book about understanding the tarot I was interested in. He initially set out to DISPROVE the tarot but found it worked. Created an advanced computer program to make tarot predictions with more precision. Got uncomfortable with charging people for readings and found they all just heard what they wanted to. Still, this guy strikes me as kind of an unknowing wizard (and actually makes a good case study for investigating the Mage archetype, it seems to me) and if he with his scientific mind found evidence of tarot working through objective study, that peaked my interests. Then I find out about the LOO, but at first, I just give a glance at the pictures of the cards without reading more. I start watching tarot things on YT that predict my month and they are all SURPRISINGLY consistent and resonated quite hard! Then I cross watched and found FURTHER consistency! Then I got obsessed, started reading about the different tarots, etc. etc.

Then I read what Ra had to say. Then I read that post on this forum about it: https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthre...arot+cards

Now I'm investigating the first 3 cards: The fool, the mage and the high priestess. And what are the 3 chakra blocks I have? The lower 3! Still, I don't see the fool as quite being red chakra. I dunno about the fool. The fool, to me, is the alpha and the omega. The beginning and the end. We have to be foolish to endeavor to do something new, yet that is what must be done each time we close one chapter and begin anew, coming full circle infinitely in our explorations of order(and/or unity) into chaos, back into order, etc... This is how infinity manifests itself. So the fool makes sense as the alpha and the omega, at least to me.

The mage is like a scientist, investigating the properties of the mind. If you are a fool, after all, it would be prudent to start examining so as to progress from there. So I use my guitar as an example: I'k foolish enough to begin to do it, despite the fact that I don't know ANYTHING. And so how do I progress from being a fool at guitar? I test things out. Experiment. This is doing. This is analyzing. This is a masculine, left brained energy. Hence, the mage is portrayed as male, asserting yang energy, as the fool does insisting on action before thought. Since he is investigating the properties and structures of the reality reflected back to him by his own mind (the matrix of the mind) he is examining the reality around himself, which is a kind of presence focus. Kinda like experiencing yourself in the physical world (I.E. red chakra energy)


The High priestess is feminine because once the mage examines the properties of the realities reflected back to him by his own mind, he becomes aware of how his preferences affect the properties, thus, like moving from red chakra focus to orange, he delves in deep with yin energy into the self to discover his preferences. More yin energy as women have very much affected the properties of physical evolution through their selectiveness. This is the investigation of ones filtering of reality experiences through the (is distortion the proper word?) of one's preference.

These are some ideas I'm exploring and I just now realize that as I type them out, they become more refined and I'm actually quite surprised by what I laid down there, as it's more to say on the subject matter than I thought I'd already have :O

Anyway, I hope that gives you some interesting ideas, even though as Ra said, the cards are best investigated subjectively. You my still take what resonates to refine your subjective investigations hehe. So I hope it helped