12-16-2010, 08:10 PM
I agree with what you wrote, but we are here to learn and teach. Disclosure does not have to be specifically about higher intelligence, it can be also about our own nature. We meditate in order to be one with creation, and learn new things. Learning about our nature through information shared with us allows us to progress in the paths that we choose.
Disclosure may be of help for some, but not necessarily all. Those who are ready for the information will understand it and use it.
At the same time, all of us will continue to live with nature and each other, growing and learning.
Disclosure may be of help for some, but not necessarily all. Those who are ready for the information will understand it and use it.
At the same time, all of us will continue to live with nature and each other, growing and learning.
(12-15-2010, 10:45 PM)litllady Wrote:(12-15-2010, 07:52 PM)Nabil Naser Wrote: We have been receiving information for a long time now. Isn't the teachings of Ra a kind of disclosure?
Moving forward, we could use more information about the nature of reality. Disclosure is simply that.
(12-15-2010, 04:40 PM)litllady Wrote: In Spiritual things and in self development (awakening to ones true nature)-what good is a disclosure?
Do we need disclosure to accomplish our highest prime potentials on Earth?
Could the whole 'disclosure' thing be a distraction in itself....distracting us from what we really need to be focusing on?
Could 'waiting' on something cause a stall in our 'be-ing' here and now?
Is such really what is important in the 'now'? Or could it be just another one of those many things that mankind waits on...stalling his/her own self to accept what already is and needs to be worked on?
I have recently taken a big turn from the whole disclosure thing and find that its not important. That it doesnt 'need to be'.
I see all as 'one'...a part of one Spirit. We can all gain access to 'phases' of this 'one' depending on our desires of what we want to know (the questions we ask) as well as what we are able to understand. I dont take the idea of 'names of soul groups or names of high selves' to be literal....but more images from our unconsciousness as a collective whole as well as personal creativity added to the message that comes to the surface.
I dont find all the details that the Law of One gives about mankinds history or earths history to be what is important. I think all information that is sought through a 'channel' is laced with our desires and can be a large distraction for us. I think the most valuable information is not that there was other beings here or where they came from ect ect....but is what life has to teach us about acceptance, love, compassion, respect, learning unselfish living, learning awareness to our actions and behaviors, learning how all that we do influences others and how what all others do influences us.
The messages through channeling doesnt come with bad intent...but the questions we ask are filled with desires that are not what is the main importance here.
Im not insulting channeling....but find it can be a major distraction. Its not the info that gets given but the desires in the questions that are asked.
I dont think the Law of One or any other material gives us a absolute disclosure. I dont think we are here to wait on something. I dont think that the most precious information for this experience is something that must be given to us that means it cant be found in life itself.
You can choose to believe all that channel material says it is...but I find it tightly linked to a united desire of mankind, due to the kind of questions man chases. Spiritual wisdom and Earthly wisdom are two different things and like most materials, the Law of One has both wisdoms therein. Some will be more attracted to the names of things in history, the stories of man, the future things that are to come....and some will be mroe resonating with the Spiritual wisdom in the material like doing the right things because you understand they are a better way and not just because you wish to be rewarded in the path of self.
I think in all materials we need to discern between the earthly wisdoms and spiritual wisdoms. If we are on a path of self, its likely the earthly wisdoms will attract us more. If we are on a path of letting the Spirit work through us, our souls will be attracted to the Spiritual wisdom and will worry not about the details of mans past.
For some it may be disclosure....to me, its not. I have no sound proof that there is beings elsewhere communicating with us and that I can have proof that the information that does come to us is something we ALWAYS have known (as a phase of Spirit) and are just tapping into the 'oneness' of all that has been and is.
For a long time I thought I had memories or knowings of past lives. Now I see it that I am allowed to see certain past experiences because those are the ones that can teach me something or offer me something. There is only ONE that incarnates into every life/experience and I call this the Holy Spirit...I call our souls 'phases of this Spirit'...and when we are given messages or information that seems beyond us or in the past to us personally, I think it is what the Spirit is giving itself in a particular phase of being because it has something to offer that being or the world.
To sum it up in a generic and general way....we can tap into many phases of the 'godhead'. So I dont see this tapping into such a record of information as 'disclosure'.
But welcome any further discussion on this. I have been getting a very strange vibe lately when I hear so many looking for disclosure to the world that aliens and other life are in contact with us.
I find it no happenstance that a couple thousand years ago...messages came to man through the images of angels, for that is what was a fresh image in the unconsciousness of mankind to be used as a 'messenger' in the mind. Now....many are experiencing the messenger as a different image, alien form...it seems the angels are becoming a endangered species of mankind's collective unconsciousness.
As a 'one' we all know in some unveiled way...the history here of Earth and man. The details may not be important though. The experience of now, of behaviors, of energy, of our inner nature amongst all other nature...is what is important.
What good does it do to one that believes aliens or evolved beings are in contact with us?
And about saying that we could use more information about the nature of reality.
Think about this question I bring to you for a moment.
Do you really think we are to be given this information? Are we not to seek nature and find understanding of this experience without being given the answers?
Sometimes when someone gives you the answer to the math problem...they really didnt help you that much. But if you learn the formula through trial and error, you understand the problem and works on a much deeper level then when someone just gave you the answer.
I dont think we are to be given the answers about this reality but we gain more by thousands of years of mankind evolving his understanding of it through time. That is why I think every religion and culture of time has its place. People want to call alot of it lies and deception....but all beliefs served a understanding for a certain time and its people.
And if you are given answers....and they resonate with you...how can you be sure they are not only resonating due to they satisfy the illusion part of you, the self, the ego, the 'I'? How can you be sure of their worth on a worldly level, spiritual level, a true evolving level in the path of service to others. Im not bashing the Law of One...for on my path of self development it gave me alot, leaps in fact.
I may be a rare one that has studied the Law of One...for in the end, it showed me I did not come here for a harvest at all, but this was simply a test to my nature just like the christian religion idea of 'being saved'. So it taught me the opposite of what it teaches many others and I feel like a odd ball of the Law of One.
Please dont think I have anything against those that await a harvest or await ascension....but I think its important to share that it took me down a very different path. In fact, it the Law of One studies ended with me when I was having an experience of standing on the edge of a black hold and was given the choice to 'stay or to go'. I chose to stay...and have not read any of the Law of One since then. I only share a different learning from it all. That it in itself, is another test to our nature. A weight and measure of us as phases of Spirit. Just my own limited perspective. I think harvest of a soul happens after death and can happen at any time....has always been happening and is not something that only happens during certain 'times'. I think one can change their body vibration at any time also. I think the number and details of a material can be a distraction. BUT...they can help us broaden our minds in keeping them open, knowing there are many possibilities.
I dont think the majority that are attracted to the Law of One are here for a harvest or ascension. I think if the idea of harvest attracts a being....they are not aware that they are still on the path of 'service to self'.
I think its all just a test....and we are given certain information from the 'one' to serve like a winepress of sorts...to sift out what each beings is living for and where the Spirit is renewing and awakening to its true nature. None of the seeking or desires are right or wrong....but all show what the being is ready for or is in need of due to their personal desires or attractions.
The story of the Buddha refusing to enter heaven is one of the things that awoke me to what path I was to be on. And the story of Jesus talking about what glory is there for one being to have glory in the self while many others of Spirit await their glory.
Alot of that is probably so irrelevant to this thread....but it does kinda of link to my reasons for why I dont think disclosure is what we are to be focusing on and explain why some are so attracted to the idea of disclosure taking place.
What purpose does it serve when one believes that there is proof of higher evolved beings giving us information?