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    Thread: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others


    Diana (Offline)

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    07-14-2018, 01:00 PM (This post was last modified: 07-14-2018, 01:03 PM by Diana.)
    (07-13-2018, 05:27 PM)rva_jeremy Wrote: Maybe this is another way to frame acceptance: it includes a willingness to engage and apprehend the subject of the acceptance. Accepting as a passive thing really doesn't mean much spiritually; if what you're accepting doesn't provoke any response in you, it's not really much of an acceptance that's growing you. But acceptance as a willingness to bring the subject of acceptance into the heart, to reckon with it, to work on one's own resistances to it, that is work, that is something much more active and demanding than just going along to get along.

    The more I think about scenario 1 the more I don't think it really is acceptance. It's acquiescence. Ha, the solution to the problem of language is just more of it, I guess. Smile

    BigSmile

    I do think it's complicated when you get to a certain point. Referring to the bolded part above, I do think resistance is getting to the heart of the matter (pun intended). Whatever one does as a result of accepting anything—be it action or none—there is a level reached that goes beyond passivity and reaches a state of tolerance (not resisting). 

    A good example would be to observe the suffering of children starving. It might unfold thusly: 

    1. To become aware of it; 

    2. Comprehension, that the starving children aren't just pictures on a TV screen; 

    3. To feel it, to care about entities beyond self and family/friends, empathy/sympathy;

    4. That a choice be made (resist it because its too painful or be angry about it);

    5. Another level of choice becomes evident, because resistance and anger are stalemates, stagnant, passive or aggressive and the energy is stuck (inertia); 

    6. And the transformation, which I think is the very hardest, is to stop keeping it at bay, stop resisting the consequences of the matter (the pain of knowing that suffering exists), and be able to tolerate it. This involves another level of choice which is, what to do about it if anything. But the key at this step is, whatever action is taken or not taken, that it comes after resistance is dissolved to the knowledge it exists, and the pain it causes in your heart.

    7. Some claim they can be content or happy or accepting as some put it, of the pain and suffering in this world. I think I could get to that point if I were a disincarnate entity like Ra, who can see beyond linear time and really know that pain (starving children, or the many other horrible things that go on here) is desired for those suffering and leads to growth and evolution (because as far as I'm concerned this is ONLY a theory); and destruction of the planet, and really innocent entities, perpetrated by humans, has some place in the scheme of things that makes sense from some perspective (because what we are told by so-called higher beings is ONLY theory to us here in the trenches). And even so, as a caveat, we are always accountable to how we act/react/conduct our time here according to our own decisions—not the words or advice of some(thing) else though that may help us gather information. 

    But I think the whole point, rather than sugarcoat with the "all is well" phrase, or analyze it with the human mind (but of course this is great fun to theorize as we do here), or find some way to make it okay, is to simply feel it. That's all. Feel it and not die. And to stop resisting feeling it. After that, I don't know. I haven't gotten that far yet.

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    1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-11-2018, 01:27 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Quan - 07-12-2018, 05:29 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-12-2018, 09:52 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-12-2018, 10:36 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Diana - 07-12-2018, 12:38 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Sacred Fool - 07-12-2018, 09:26 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Diana - 07-13-2018, 12:27 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-12-2018, 02:47 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-13-2018, 02:57 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-13-2018, 05:27 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Diana - 07-14-2018, 01:00 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by xise - 07-14-2018, 01:16 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-14-2018, 05:30 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Sacred Fool - 07-15-2018, 04:46 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by flofrog - 07-15-2018, 04:52 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Agua - 07-16-2018, 01:25 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-16-2018, 09:51 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-16-2018, 10:09 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by hounsic - 07-16-2018, 07:55 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Sacred Fool - 07-17-2018, 11:18 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-17-2018, 12:09 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Diana - 07-18-2018, 09:35 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Sacred Fool - 07-17-2018, 01:30 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-17-2018, 01:52 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Sacred Fool - 07-17-2018, 11:07 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Agua - 07-18-2018, 03:43 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Sacred Fool - 07-18-2018, 04:10 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Agua - 07-18-2018, 04:28 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-18-2018, 11:17 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by AnthroHeart - 07-18-2018, 01:37 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Agua - 07-18-2018, 01:50 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by AnthroHeart - 07-18-2018, 02:03 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-18-2018, 02:55 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-18-2018, 02:46 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by AnthroHeart - 07-18-2018, 03:11 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Sacred Fool - 07-18-2018, 07:17 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-19-2018, 08:45 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by flofrog - 07-18-2018, 03:43 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by Cainite - 07-18-2018, 06:00 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-19-2018, 08:58 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-25-2018, 11:02 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-26-2018, 03:58 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by flofrog - 07-26-2018, 04:08 PM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by rva_jeremy - 07-27-2018, 10:53 AM
    RE: 1983.08.21: Latwii on acceptance, treating others - by flofrog - 07-27-2018, 02:01 PM

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