Rant at 5:22 AM

[Memorandem]

A defeat of self is the self's victory. A victory of the self is the self's defeat. Death can only make you stronger. Besides, that's how we learn: we fight our surroundings, and learn by that experience.

I hate to say this, if only because I've felt the pain of a broken Ego,

May I add that it would clarify the meaning if we could use different names for these two "self"s.
If a self can die, it was not the Real immortal Self.

The mental death of a self is a devastating experience, yet something I can recommend to anyone.

love
biknewb

This is just food for thought. You say that the Self cannot die, but how have you come to that conclusion? Has it been because you went through that lesson or simply because you followed through the chain of logic and came to a logical conclusion? My experience is that we only truly know something after we have experienced it. And then we realize that we really don't know, and instead of coming to a conclusion, we become all the wiser because we understand a part of our environment more deeply. Geniuses understand how others think because they've been all through this process. They don't KNOW anything. But they've experienced a lot. You see, we can't learn by drawing distinctions (distinction=distortion), rather, we learn by taking our existing distinctions and through experience, break them down.

This is one of the reasons I say thought should not end. If you keep thinking about one thing (not obsessively, but looking at it at different angles and maneuvering your thoughts around it), you eventually do experience it. After you keep doing this for a long time, you learn how to maneuver your thoughts. You learn about these little levers in your brain you can pull in order to look at things in different ways.

My feeling is that most of us have come to our conclusions through logic more than experience, and that we simply stop when we feel we have found a good answer. Personally, I am very sensitive to anything that doesn't fit in the scheme. If it doesn't fit, I think about it. Sensitivity to this sort of thing can be a blessing or a curse, depending on how you use it. It will either push you forward or backward. I believe we should work to gain this sensitivity, and I feel it is as much of a gift as, say, telepathy would be.

Hello Memorandem. I appreciate your thoughts.

Today I thought what my world would look alike if I got cancer. I concluded that it's likely that I'll kill myself rather than leeching on so many medical resources should mental love and healing to food and myself not suffice. This would be the ultimate STO action in a way.
This was very profound to me, like a spiritual death match (literally).

Regarding your thoughts about the LOO, it's difficult to discuss whether some people "understand" it or not, for it harbours all and denies none; the fundamental of paradoxal 3D understanding. Every part of the infinite contains infinity, and thus that which you label "lack of understanding" contains the understanding which it does not.

Rather, find love in the uniqueness of the thought which you find unbearable. Without an opposite there would be no polarities and there would be just a static, dead, truly meaningless world!

Much love to you, my friend

I am not sure whether I will nullify your argument or not, but I am sure I will increase its understanding.

>Regarding your thoughts about the LOO, it's difficult to discuss whether some people "understand" it or not, for it harbours
>all and denies none; the fundamental of paradoxal 3D understanding. Every part of the infinite contains infinity, and thus
>that which you label "lack of understanding" contains the understanding which it does not.

As I said, people are thoughts, everything was originally a thought. I defined self-consciousness as how much of your own thought you are. This level of Thought is known as Embodiment. If you think enough to know something to the level I've described, you have Embodied it, it has become part of you as a thought (because you have accepted it with all your being/thought, by thinking it). What I mean by "those who understand" are those who have embodied this thought, as thoughts themselves, which excludes that which they have not embodied, which has not become a part of them. If I were to ignore the illusion we have of separateness, then you are right. However, I have only come to the understanding that separateness is an illusion through logic, and not experienced it; I have not thought enough. And I cannot experience that level of thought as a fully conscious being unless I have experienced/thought up to that point. The point is, I'm learning, as are we all, and we seek to embody this level of thought, not simply believe that we understand it. So we MUST go through the loops without taking shortcuts. If we skip this lesson, we won't have embodied the thought. This is what I am trying to say. There's nothing wrong with faith or even blind faith, but if our aim is to embody, we must at least balance faith with understanding.

I hope this inspires healthy Thought in all of you.

My aim is not to de-evolve or to support that intent. That was never my conscious aim, anyways (of course now I throw myself for a loop because if I accept that it was never my conscious aim, I will have set up a barrier to to my understanding of that part of my intent, and also one between my subconscious mind and myself; this is one thing I will think about).

I was reading the 2012 Channeling yesterday; it is really good! It has good things for me to chew on. I recommend the read.

This is interesting for me, because I am saying a lot of things spontaneously, before I've completely thought through them. Indeed, I've surprised myself. Perhaps my subconscious mind is spilling out onto the keyboard. Anyways, I hope this is a learning experience for you as it is to me. I don't intend to waste your time.

Also, I have to give credit to TaoTeRazz, as he helped give me the brainfuel that resulted in this.

- Memorandem