Confederation and meat consumption

[anagogy]

If you believe plants feel pain or suffer in some way, you are arguing for a plant-only diet, because you cause more plants to die when you eat meat.

I can post the studies about agriculture land use or carbon footprint that shows this point if you're truly interested?

Why deny those 2nd density beings more incarnational experience? If it wasn't for the multitude of bodies bred, they have less chances to level up. More experience is a good thing. I do believe plants feel something negative as the integrity of their life form comes to an end (this is true for most beings -- but after the cessation of the physical there is a counterbalance to that), but it is not for us to pick and choose among experiences for them. The creator has that part well under control.

So I'm not really concerned about that. The vegetable consciousness has a monopoly on physical bodies anyway. I leave that to the creator. Not our job to consciously regulate the amount of bodies available for incarnation for 2nd density experiences (in either kingdom). I'm not arguing for a plant based diet. I'm arguing for whatever diet one feels called to. Even Ra alluded to the individually different metabolism, necessitating different amounts of animal products. I'm arguing for us to stop judging beings as less spiritual for simply following the biological edicts of the body, calling for certain nutrients to maintain optimal health. I'm tired of the agenda and need to control morality stating there is only one correct way to live. It is simply not true.

Everybody is so worried about the carbon footprint. Another misguided notion in my opinion. The Earth has natural balancing mechanisms to deal with such things. Global warming isn't a bad thing, like everybody mistakenly believes. It is part of a natural cycle of the earth. There is a lot of fear propaganda out there.
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- There is nothing "spiritual" in eat meat. On the contrary. The energies of a slaughterhouse are so lower that is like a hell.
- In the moment of the death the energice of scary and fear are so much that they pass to the meat. This become the meat very energetically heavy.
- I see contradiction in eat meat knowing about unity, because the suffer of animals is so much that hurts in myself. This is heavy, sad, demonic, separation, etc.
- It's not necessary eat meat. This is a addiction.
- The spiritual structure of the animals and plants is very difrret. The spirit of the plants don't stay inside the body, but out.
- It's not violation of freewill spoke about the effects of meat. As isn't to spoke about drugs, negative thoughts and emotions, alcohol, etc.

-No one is arguing for slaughterhouses. Most are in agreement that is negative. But they are still going to continue to exist, until the planet becomes a celestialized edenic 4D STO planet.
-Most 2nd density organisms experience fear in death (most 3rd densities as well). I believe plants feel something negative as well when they die. This only disturbs the physically crystallized structure of animal body/plant body if the animal/plant lives its whole life in fear.
-We don't truly know what the animal experiences. You're imagining every death as horrible. We simply don't know that. We can intuit, but often our intuition is warped by our biases. Their deaths are usually quick in the agricultural industry, except in cases of illegal practices. Agricultural practices could improved to the point where suffering did not occur. There is so much pessimism about it. Let's be optimistic without needing to control the dietary ideological morality of others.
-Its not necessary to have furniture, and houses made out of late 2nd density/early 3rd density trees either. It is also not necessary to have any possessions beyond the bare necessities to keep your physical body alive. We can donate the rest to charity and live a life of pure giving. Are you gonna do it? There comes a point when you have to realize the absurdity of taking these zealotous ideologies to their extreme. I also believe this is a case of species-ism. Living life is not supposed to be so miserable and destitute. We are here to enjoy the fruits of the creators game. Contemplating the absurdity of the extremes of these ideologies feels far more heavy and negative than any of these negative speculations about what other consciousness complexes may or may not be experiencing. Remove all pleasures from life and we will all want to die anyway. We are overthinking this 3rd density thing. It wasn't meant to be so hard. The outer doesn't dictate the charge of polarity. Always remember that. When one assumes it does, we have stepped into the realm of judgment.
-Animals are similar in many ways. Most 2nd density do not have a solidified ruach (the second soul/ego), and they are part of a group field of consciousness (this is also why they aren't subject to the veil -- whereas pets usually are (even loved personal plants/trees in a garden), because they have been separated from the group mind over multiple incarnations usually). Beings that have not individuated also have a strong ability to telepathically communicate with other members of their species group.
-Correct, and Ra never mentioned it at all. We should pay more attention to that. This was an extremely pure channel. We imagine a lot about the animal kingdom's experiences. Not all of it is right.

I disagree that your scenario creates a higher potential of what you have stated and instead I think the human complex will near-equally mirror how the early 2D being would do these things, as humans are brought down to the lowest-rays in face of survival, but would also have higher distorted/confused reasons to do these things. The early-2D being would thief and kill plain out of basic built-in instincts relating to survival while the more advanced 3D being with a greater sense of self may find much more superficial reasons to do these acts.

The reason why is the early second density has not developed even a rudimentary 3rd soul yet (the neshamah), which gives them the spiritual capacity to empathize (and be consciously self willed in the afterlife). They would be in survival mode until their red ray was completely balanced. Pets could possibly be another story, as they are late 2nd density. But even early 3rd densities often end up in these roles, again, no 3rd soul developed. Or in Ra speak, they haven't begun to balance green ray. But there are unique experiences. I was speaking as to what would be generally true.