(01-31-2018, 05:38 PM)anagogy Wrote: If you plucked a 2nd density being out of its early 2D cycle, and plopped it into a 3rd density human body, guess what? They would be your sociopaths, your murderers, your thieves, and god knows what else. It isn't because they are evil, its simply because they are 2nd density. It is nature. They are different than us in many ways. Similar in a lot of ways too, but not the same. We imagine little people out there. It is misconceived.
If you mean to say that they would more selflessly reflect the design of the mind/body in how it is programmed to know to respond, then ya sure as they don't even have a sense of self yet which disallows them to make any conscious choices. Although 2D has a strong catalytic nature, 2D is not the root of it and it is instead a mean thought of from higher densities to diversify the paths toward reaching self-awareness and thus gain biases in the process to diversify the expression of consciousness.
I disagree that your scenario creates a higher potential of what you have stated and instead I think the human complex will near-equally mirror how the early 2D being would do these things, as humans are brought down to the lowest-rays in face of survival, but would also have higher distorted/confused reasons to do these things. The early-2D being would thief and kill plain out of basic built-in instincts relating to survival while the more advanced 3D being with a greater sense of self may find much more superficial reasons to do these acts. This is why often people can find they connect more deeply with a pet than other people, because unlike the more confused and distorted human complex their potential for emotion is much purer and simple, which remains true as they realize self-awareness. A good example of this is how humans by-passed parenting instincts and ate their own children in time of famine because of having a strong sense of self, while I think your scenario-entity would be unable to act this way and would resort more to kill others to preserve the children. Of course that's based on human instincts, for some reason hamster got strong instincts in eating their children that merely a foreign smell placed on them is a valid reason to, again they're just acting the design without conscious will of their own regarding this, they literally just don't realize the act.
Due to the veil and short-lived incarnation, humans barely grow into self-awareness of their own and play out their biases and conditions of mind/body more than not. Anyway, I think the grimness you spoke of relates little to 2D and more to the local-Logoic designs which was designed to expand both its experience and the 3D experience. Like I said in a thread a long time ago, the carnivorous nature of certain animals is pretty much just an Orion-design which was approved by the Council of Saturn, for the Orion-group it has its negative-rooted purpose and the Council has its unity-rooted purpose also in allowing it. Planets without these aspects are heavily biased toward the positive path, although this world still is more than not also.
Another contrast is that I think an animal that kills an animal is somewhat closer to being a rock that sits as a rock or water that runs alongside gravity than it is to be a human, while a human is also closer to an animal than it is to any knowledge of self-found love, and this self-found love is much more human-like than it is any-like having it in an actual ability to perceive and process it and love-act from there, and this greater ability to perceive is still nothing like being bound to truth in your awareness, and being bound to know the truth of both your and others' expression of this truth is still different than being the whole of this truth itself, and actually being the whole of this truth is still nothing like being each portion itself stuck in paradox and unaware, and yet among it all a rock is closer to being the truth of it all whole than all the higher knowing-ones. The spectrum of the Octave is from Source to Source where unity binds, so I think 2D relfects pure innocence more than anything, while humanity still reflects innocence but more confused and unwell as it is and is not so much, all like 2D here, in the image of the densities and what they are. The landscape does more of that in your interactions as a 3D being with it than the people, although I guess they give an idea still of what it is to be people but little look at humanity whole rather than a facet of it.