01-12-2018, 05:30 PM
To address the OP, I want to clarify that I think very specifically that Q'uo was not talking about oxalates. Oxalates are present in many, many vegetables, so to think that Q'uo is encouraging one to avoid vegetables/nuts that contain oxalates seems a misinterpretation.
Q'uo says "tainted food" so I think that means something has happened to it to remove it from its natural state. I think what Q'uo is talking about is one or all of the three things mentioned already in this thread: Cow breast milk (literally not made for humans to consume, and usually aged to some odd degree before humans consume it - when it was created by nature to be drank straight from the teat), vegetables grown with a lot of harmful pesticides (I believe pesticide laden food affects gut flora, which affects so much of how the rest of our body works), and the final and obvious one, animal flesh. Again, if humans were to consume the animal alive, as do most predators/carnivores, I think the considerations would be different. Or, if they drank milk from the teat as it was intended, it wouldn't be "tainted". Otherwise, these things begin to age and decompose, and then we have to add other things to it to make them still palatable.
One of my coworkers was telling me why she went vegan, the other day. She was raised in Brazil and in Brazil, they do not embalm bodies, mainly because of cost/benefit. So, if someone dies in the morning, they are buried that evening, and if they die in the evening, they are buried the next morning. She said still, even after 12 hours, that things would happen to the body that began to putrefy it. When she came to America and saw all the supermarkets with rows and rows of packaged flesh that had been there for days, she was beyond repulsed and decided to not eat meat ever again. We add all sorts of things to meat, including adding fresh flesh to old fresh to make it appear more desirable on the shelf.
Of course, this is ignoring the other obvious "poisons", like fast food and soda, but I don't think anyone convinces themselves that eating McDonald's is the healthiest option for them - unless you're paranoid of being literally poisoned, like Donald Trump.
Anyway, I just wanted to contribute a bit more to the discussion, since I feel like I have an in here - I have literally not had a cold or flu in 6 years of being vegan. In the question, Austin mentions about being susceptible during the wintertime in Kentucky, but I used to live in Iowa, and it was like clockwork, with each season change, that flu/cold would spread like wildfire. Soon after going vegan, I realized that I was immune to all the fears that everyone had of "catching cold" from others. It just hasn't happened. And I consume lots of wheat, tea and oxalates so I highly doubt Q'uo is talking about these things.
What I find most interesting, is that Q'uo stresses that there are things that are objectively unhealthy for us, regardless of how healthy we "believe" they are. So, it appears there is no "mind over matter" when it comes to eating things that objectively cause our physical bodies distress.
To extrapolate further, I think the "phenomenon of the mass subjugation of the immune systems of many of your peoples who have basically weakened physical vehicles due to dietary choices and mental choices of unrelieved disharmony, shall we say" refers to everyone who proclaims to love second density, but yet still pays for their subjugation and torture. I think most people have turmoil about that on some level, because you can't ignore the huge agricultural machine that is currently destroying all parts of our planet. And that has to redound to the personal self, the microcosm of our "weakened physical vehicles".
Q'uo says "tainted food" so I think that means something has happened to it to remove it from its natural state. I think what Q'uo is talking about is one or all of the three things mentioned already in this thread: Cow breast milk (literally not made for humans to consume, and usually aged to some odd degree before humans consume it - when it was created by nature to be drank straight from the teat), vegetables grown with a lot of harmful pesticides (I believe pesticide laden food affects gut flora, which affects so much of how the rest of our body works), and the final and obvious one, animal flesh. Again, if humans were to consume the animal alive, as do most predators/carnivores, I think the considerations would be different. Or, if they drank milk from the teat as it was intended, it wouldn't be "tainted". Otherwise, these things begin to age and decompose, and then we have to add other things to it to make them still palatable.
One of my coworkers was telling me why she went vegan, the other day. She was raised in Brazil and in Brazil, they do not embalm bodies, mainly because of cost/benefit. So, if someone dies in the morning, they are buried that evening, and if they die in the evening, they are buried the next morning. She said still, even after 12 hours, that things would happen to the body that began to putrefy it. When she came to America and saw all the supermarkets with rows and rows of packaged flesh that had been there for days, she was beyond repulsed and decided to not eat meat ever again. We add all sorts of things to meat, including adding fresh flesh to old fresh to make it appear more desirable on the shelf.
Of course, this is ignoring the other obvious "poisons", like fast food and soda, but I don't think anyone convinces themselves that eating McDonald's is the healthiest option for them - unless you're paranoid of being literally poisoned, like Donald Trump.
Anyway, I just wanted to contribute a bit more to the discussion, since I feel like I have an in here - I have literally not had a cold or flu in 6 years of being vegan. In the question, Austin mentions about being susceptible during the wintertime in Kentucky, but I used to live in Iowa, and it was like clockwork, with each season change, that flu/cold would spread like wildfire. Soon after going vegan, I realized that I was immune to all the fears that everyone had of "catching cold" from others. It just hasn't happened. And I consume lots of wheat, tea and oxalates so I highly doubt Q'uo is talking about these things.
What I find most interesting, is that Q'uo stresses that there are things that are objectively unhealthy for us, regardless of how healthy we "believe" they are. So, it appears there is no "mind over matter" when it comes to eating things that objectively cause our physical bodies distress.
To extrapolate further, I think the "phenomenon of the mass subjugation of the immune systems of many of your peoples who have basically weakened physical vehicles due to dietary choices and mental choices of unrelieved disharmony, shall we say" refers to everyone who proclaims to love second density, but yet still pays for their subjugation and torture. I think most people have turmoil about that on some level, because you can't ignore the huge agricultural machine that is currently destroying all parts of our planet. And that has to redound to the personal self, the microcosm of our "weakened physical vehicles".
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