08-21-2017, 08:02 PM
(08-21-2017, 04:09 AM)JayCee Wrote: Everything about those visions and downloads you mention reminds me a lot of my own experience. I cannot say there were negative ones though, it baffles me that you had those of negative entities and such.The downloads were positive, and full of wisdom and concepts and broader perspectives. I have over 300 journals of automatic writing from them.. wrote for 2-4 hours every morning as I woke up. it was awesome. When I move I hope to type them all up in the computer, but they are currently in storage.
It does not ring true with the otherwise unconditional love and general high.
Or did the negative visions come later, after those love feelings had gone? sorry, maybe I misunderstood.
And yeah, the negative visions of which I haven't had any since that time..and I have never had "visions" except for that time. It was really weird. Had benevolent-seeming strong dreams (which I later identified as not-so-benevolent when I started getting the self-doubt & realizing the dreams were leading me to do something I wouldn't normally ever do, extremely out of character) and the visions were basically warning me of what was "really" going on in 3d-land that I wasn't seeing when I was in my "blissful state" hehe. More like paranoid-delusions is what I thought they were. And so in my state of confusion, I didn't want to believe in the visions, my ego didn't want to believe in the delusions or in thinking anyone is out to harm me, and I didn't want to believe that I was "paranoid".. so I dismissed the visions, when they were actually my mind's "warning system" of mind-overload and the lack of discernment. If I were to believe the visions, I would've had to believe that everyone at work was my enemy, and I thought that was more crazy. So yeah... was excited about getting visions because I had never had them before, and excited about being able to "interpret/read people's minds"... but they were probably a "sickness", and a warning system; "system-crash".
The negative entities is not something I believed fully, it was just an "idea" that came to me while I was in it and I felt that I was being manipulated and by what? I didn't know. I didn't know where the "stuff" I was getting was coming from but as things started to get pretty bad in my "daily" life, I was thinking that whatever "intuition" or "guidance" that I was following and trusting... may not of had "positive" "benevolent" intentions, and that's when I started thinking it was negative entities, etc. But I think it could've been a mix. As I was getting the PTSD symptoms from whatever happened, it brought up "negative memories" which could've been entities of any kind of nature.
I didn't see negative entities as "evil" per-say... more like "helpers who are showing us where we don't love ourselves.. poking us where it hurts to show us what we are here to do, the "work".. but I also don't know much about them because I have only really started taking the research of it more seriously, rather than before when I was very dismissive of it being a possibility because I didn't want to be perceived as "nuts" by others & I also believed that no matter what, you have "undealt with stuff" that is causing them in the first place, whether you name them "entities" and give them a life, or whether they are just negative "thoughts" or old, stubborn belief-patterns, or an ego that is trying to hold-onto and protect it's identity... now I just want to learn more to have a thorough understanding and therefore won't suppress or dismiss anything and be able to "do the work" from a broader perspective.
(08-21-2017, 04:09 AM)JayCee Wrote: Edited: may I ask what exactly the unusual mind experiment exactly was? I am curious. Thank you. And maybe it was green ray activation - I was going to say something else but I have forgotten already.Explained briefly what I could remember in the last post but yeah, basically just lifting the lid on what was possible, stepping into the world that I wanted, stepping into what I thought was "truth" and "trusting the universe", trusting everything, feeling one-ness and unconditional love for all that is... the game and the players.
I came across another thread on the bring4th forums and they refer to it as a mental illness:
[...] had a serious mental health problem following meditation retreats. The first time she was admitted to hospital her symptoms included: Thought disorder with flight of ideas, her mood was elevated and there were grandiose delusions including the belief that she had some special mission for the world: she had to offer ‘undying, unconditional love’ to everyone. She had no [critical] insight. Full Thread here.
(08-21-2017, 04:09 AM)JayCee Wrote: Think tonights eclipse is already blowing my mindDefinitely feeling the effects of the eclipse

(08-21-2017, 06:26 AM)JayCee Wrote: Yes the visions and downloads were positive - and very interesting. It all seemed very meaning full at the time but now I cannot recall much, or it gets mixed up with things that occurred later.... I regretted later on that I did not write anything down at the time it occurred.
I also didn't write down the visions.. but because mine were negative.. I didn't want to "acknowledge" them or give them more power to be created

Were the downloads that you got.. were they of the "you create your own reality" nature? And that everything is inter-connected? Most of my downloads that I actually got to write down, were of the "you are the creator/director and player of this 'game' - here is one of the ones that I have actually typed up from 2015: Automatic Writing with my Higher/Future self?
(08-21-2017, 06:26 AM)JayCee Wrote: It came after concentrating on enlightenment - trying to get enlightened. That is why I asked you about the unusual mind practices that you mentioned in your first post. (You might not have seen it, I have edited my last post to ask you that)
Ah yeah, you're right, I didn't see the edit

If enlightenment is "truth", then I was trying to get "truth" of the universe / what this reality is, what is really going on, what is this place? and what is our role in this place? Who are we? What are we? Why are we here? What is the purpose of this? How does it work? Yearning/seeking/demanding/willing it in an urgent/forceful way and in a powerful way if that makes sense. Not in a desperate way but with.. an excited understanding that we are creating all this and that it's so much bigger than my ant-perspective, and with a willingness to test out just how far we can go .. if we lift the lid on what is possible (our current beliefs into the unknown paradigm of whatever infinitely is.. to explore that which is unknown to me, to receive/know truth) in my mind. I don't recommend this practice to anyone, cos apparently you can fall flat on your face if you haven't done the necessary balancing work first

(08-21-2017, 06:26 AM)JayCee Wrote: I think the intention we set out is important.
Yep, if I'd really known it was going to change the reality that I was experiencing to the extent that it did.. I would've done things a lot differently lol, but I took one for team-humanity so that I can warn others against it I guess

(08-21-2017, 06:26 AM)JayCee Wrote: One other thing that came to mind reading your post was that I remember I had wondered why my experience did not last. The answer came to me about a year ago, when someone asked Mooji the same thing... they had had wonderful mystical experiences and those faded away.
And Mooji simply replied "it did not last because it was of the mind".
Isn't it all mind? This reality I think is experienced through the filters of our mind, wherever you are, you are experiencing it from your own unique lens of the mind.
(08-21-2017, 06:26 AM)JayCee Wrote: To get out of the mind and into the heart. A state where there are no thoughts.
Think about it, all the bad things, the fears, the doubts, it is all mind. It is all thoughts.
We see the world not how it is but how the mind works and makes us believe it is.
All the knowledge we acquire, all the books we study, it is not worth much in the end. What can be gained can also be lost.
Find out what is always there, before the thoughts and all that crap comes in, and remain in that state.
I think I experienced the heart and then the mind kicked-in lol and yeah coming to these forums has warmed my heart a bit more, as I have started exploring the possibilities that I did not give myself permission to fully explore at the time because I just needed to be "normal" because I could see how "out there" I was compared to everyone else, but now that I'm back allowing myself to express and explore the idea that I wasn't exactly "nuts" but rather just completely unbalanced.. I can possibly open the green-ray again.. but not completely and not until the lower 3 are balanced
