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    11-20-2010, 02:12 PM (This post was last modified: 11-22-2010, 03:48 PM by turtledude23.)
    (11-20-2010, 01:01 PM)unity100 Wrote: you are underestimating the dedication of private interests, and any effect they can have on government. echelon has been decrypting any radio wave communication out of new zealand all throughout the cold war. and it had a worldwide network. granted this was a military effort for a defense issue. however, it signifies how much money can be spent on these. if the see the need, they could spend trillions on server farms to decrypt data.

    Yes, Echelon, the NSA, and equivelant agencies in other countries do have the resources to decrypt selected messages with even the strongest encryption, but not even all the super computers in the world combined would have the power to decrypt communications on a mass scale, even if everyone was only using modestly good encryption like AES-128, let alone higher bit(rates? forgot the term). Encryption on a mass scale is something money can not solve with the current state of technology. Alot is being invested into quantum computing, possibly by the organizations you are concerned about, but it's a long ways away in the future. And I think there currently are encryption algorithms that are theorized to be resistant to quantum decryption because they're based on elliptic curves instead of factoring large numbers.

    I appreciate your concern about private interests but if you look at the history of the Internet it has been very fragile throughout its decades of development, private interests could have stepped in at any time to destroy it and they didn't. The free, open world wide web was created in 1993, before that were private centralized networks you had to pay to add content to like AOL and CompuServe. Despite being there first and having more financial resource, they lost to the apparent underdog. Alot of good people fought to keep the internet free and open, and they won, but the other factor involved is that - other than STS adepts - most "half STS" people [nowhere near 95% and not enough self discipline to get there, but still huge jerks] (e.g. corrupt politicians and businessmen) do not have good knowledge of technology and have no intention to learn about it because in their little world anything they want comes from verbal orders, they can't fathom the possibility that machines in every household that were put there by geeks are beyond their control. And the few that try to learn about technology find that it keeps accelerating in its progress. You would have to be very self disciplined to spend your precious time reading about silly machines when you'd rather be at a strip club or great gatsby party.

    The very nature of the internet makes it more likely that STO will win this battle of technology.

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    US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-16-2010, 04:20 PM
    RE: Us is set to censor internet - by Aaron - 11-16-2010, 05:33 PM
    RE: Us is set to censor internet - by Brittany - 11-16-2010, 05:42 PM
    RE: Us is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-16-2010, 06:10 PM
    RE: Us is set to censor internet - by Ali Quadir - 11-16-2010, 07:02 PM
    RE: Us is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-16-2010, 08:30 PM
    RE: Us is set to censor internet - by Ali Quadir - 11-17-2010, 04:28 AM
    RE: Us is set to censor internet - by Questioner - 11-16-2010, 10:43 PM
    RE: Us is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-17-2010, 08:30 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Ali Quadir - 11-17-2010, 08:53 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-17-2010, 10:25 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by AnthroHeart - 11-17-2010, 10:17 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by turtledude23 - 11-17-2010, 11:09 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-18-2010, 12:44 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-19-2010, 11:11 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Richard - 11-19-2010, 11:29 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-19-2010, 11:41 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Ali Quadir - 11-19-2010, 01:06 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-19-2010, 01:16 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Richard - 11-19-2010, 04:08 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-19-2010, 07:51 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Ali Quadir - 11-19-2010, 06:35 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by turtledude23 - 11-19-2010, 11:57 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Ali Quadir - 11-20-2010, 02:11 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-20-2010, 01:01 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by turtledude23 - 11-20-2010, 02:12 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Richard - 11-22-2010, 12:45 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-22-2010, 04:03 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by seejay21 - 11-22-2010, 06:51 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-23-2010, 12:23 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by turtledude23 - 11-23-2010, 06:50 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by seejay21 - 11-22-2010, 02:12 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by turtledude23 - 11-22-2010, 03:42 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by turtledude23 - 11-22-2010, 09:01 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-23-2010, 08:43 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-26-2010, 03:49 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Ali Quadir - 11-26-2010, 04:07 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-27-2010, 09:49 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Ali Quadir - 11-27-2010, 12:30 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by seejay21 - 11-27-2010, 02:04 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-27-2010, 05:22 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Ali Quadir - 11-27-2010, 03:29 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by seejay21 - 11-27-2010, 03:46 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Ali Quadir - 11-27-2010, 03:48 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Crimson - 11-27-2010, 04:59 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by seejay21 - 11-27-2010, 05:06 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by seejay21 - 11-27-2010, 06:02 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-27-2010, 06:16 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Crimson - 11-27-2010, 06:25 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-27-2010, 06:27 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-27-2010, 08:34 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by seejay21 - 11-27-2010, 09:45 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-27-2010, 10:00 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Lavazza - 11-28-2010, 02:25 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Monica - 11-28-2010, 03:07 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-28-2010, 11:00 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by seejay21 - 11-27-2010, 10:13 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-27-2010, 10:33 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Monica - 11-28-2010, 12:31 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by turtledude23 - 11-28-2010, 12:54 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-28-2010, 01:17 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Monica - 11-28-2010, 01:41 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Ali Quadir - 11-28-2010, 10:46 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Lavazza - 11-28-2010, 11:46 AM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by unity100 - 11-28-2010, 12:19 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Monica - 11-28-2010, 01:16 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by seejay21 - 11-28-2010, 07:35 PM
    RE: US is set to censor internet - by Richard - 11-29-2010, 03:50 PM

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