(11-19-2010, 04:08 PM)Richard Wrote: Nothing except a newly elected majority in the house of Representatives. Plus 6 new Senate seats...not a majority, but neither does it give the current regime a majority either. If they don't pass this bill in the current lame duck session, it will never get out of committee in the next session.
Will this help or hinder?...I don't know. But the last election changes everything. Especially since many of these newly elected representatives ran on the platform of limited big govt.
I have hope that the limited govt electees will see this bill for what it is...a governmental power grab.
reelection will probably end up with republican majority, which will mean that things will be at the hands of the group which actually started the filth that is ACTA :
http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/6/24/acta-le...il-within/
acta is an international treaty, it is seeking to enforce u.s. copyright and patent rules, bring 3 strikes and you are banned from internet laws without no court order (a committee of trade interests, copyright holders are going to issue warnings through isps), and many more stuff.
they cooked it, started pushing it around before 2006.
had sources within European Union, and later European parliament didnt step in, and first started leaking the agreement, and then outright demanding that the treaty text be disclosed to entire world without any conditions, usa would be still trying to push it to every country in the world without letting the public know. it had been approx 6 months, that a vote of european parliament with a whopping 600 or so out of 660 members, had forced the negotiators participating in the process to disclose the treaty text. even still after that there were 4-5 countries, namely usa, japan, korea and a few others, who were resisting the disclosure of the terms to public.
basically, they were totally creating laws, without participation of any parliament, and without the knowledge of their public.
only ones who had easy and unlimited access to the text, were the usa lobbyists who prepared it with republicans.
even a comment of u.s. trade representative, ensuring a lobbyist that 'the participation of consumer groups would be kept to a minimum', had leaked into internet.
imagine the level filth has reached.
Quote:You might also note the status of this bill on the site you listed...it is still in committee....not even out for a vote....things can stay in comittee for years
Richard
democrats are in the pocket of big media. which wants to make a cable tv out of internet. republicans ARE the ones who prepared acta to push it to everyone. even if, suddenly another group get majority, like a miracle, private interests still have too much money to lobby.
all it boils down to capitalism inadvertently affecting politics again.
the true miracle would be greens to win majority in upper and lower houses in usa.
(11-19-2010, 06:35 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: They have made many attempts to get this rolling Unity, but they've failed on numerous occasions already. This is not a battle about to begin, in fact one could say it began in France in the 18th century.
these are probably being pushed around, because ACTA is almost dead now.
Eu banned its most important terms from being applied anywhere within eu. and it is binding. no 3 strikes, no isp liability, no takedown of sites without court order. no dmca pushing.
mexican parliament also called total rejection of acta. india is also against its terms. russia , china arent even in. the treaty is way gimped down now, but still carries dangerous things like dmca.
so, seeing that this thing is probably dead, (Eu Parl wont let it go active nomatter what in eu) they are trying to do it through other means, like this 'security©right censorship bill' (coica) and giving dhs the right to govern networks.
European parliament, practically saved entire world from acta, more or less.
but, now americans need to save america from coica, and other similar filth..