07-07-2017, 12:35 PM
(07-07-2017, 09:24 AM)Night Owl Wrote: Once again that's not what I'm talking about. The subject is not relevant. I'm talking about the kind of traumas that can cause a physical reaction. If it was that simplistic I would not have made a thread about that. You can't tell someone who faint at the sight of blood: maybe you just don't like it. Well very most likely but that's not the point. I'm talking about the specific maybe very early traumas that something that creates a very intense trigger like that can be activating. Something the mind has not any memories to associate with. I'm not looking for reasons why I don't like stuff. Obviously we all just like and dislike certain things, and that's perfectly fine.
You can't tell them that but you can tell them what I told you, to dive into it to find the root of it within their emotional body. The root is clearly there as otherwise there would be no reaction and you won't gain awareness of what it is nor work with it unless you touch upon it.
It will relate to something as it is a cause and effect of something like everything else in existence. In the example of blood, the person can have past lifetimes deaths which are triggered by the sight of blood and this would change only once the traumatic energies are distilled. The person will either achieve this through being triggered by its outer reality enough times for the energies to be distilled or by willingly diving into them itself.
As a reminder you are a mind/body/spirit complex, so certain distortions relate to the mind, others the body and yet again others the spirit. The nature of this reality is to make you blind to the roots of these things and confusion make things appear complex when they are in fact quite simply if seen clearly without confusion. This is where meditation has importance to transmute these things, otherwise you are much like trying to alter the deep flows of an ocean by altering its most upper surface.
(07-07-2017, 09:24 AM)Night Owl Wrote: The physical emotion of such repulsion seems almost like something that triggers the most primitive part of the brain. Something even my dog has done at times. It's not something reasonable or rational. It's something that the body is fighting. It's a physical "get the f*** out of the system" kind of thing. When I focus on this feeling, it is impossible to meditate in fact it is the opposite state of meditation. Yet some people might be enduring tortures without moving an inch. I only stated my exemple in case it helps someone relate. In the case of sound I guess many people might have experienced when hearing something like black metal or something like that. For me it's more the fat bass and repetition that makes me dizzy. Someone might for exemple be very sensible to spicy food and almost vomit for touching a little bit of tabasco. I don't have that problem but I'll have it for other things. An even more common exemple might be smoking. Some people cannot smoke any amount without their body severely fighting it while others are completely immune to it. I'm seeking the emotional connection that is more basic and general that we can all experience given that we compare the symptoms rather than the subject. In your case how do you feel if you ingest vinegar for exemple or get yourself into cold water? Would you find a rational cause to your aversion?
Seems like you have resistance to centering yourself within those energies, seems like that is a good area of work to begin with. You can see either a dead end or the beginning of a path of work.
I wasn't really talking about finding rational reasons but everything hold and happen for reasons. Each thing could be contemplated symbolically to provide more guidance. In the case of taste there is also a very good reason people's sense of taste can change over time, because they work with themselves and transform and release the energies they contained. Your body even almost entirely reform itself with new matter over a not so long period of time, so it's much always about the entertained patterns your mind identifies with that shape the body.
I think in your case the root of what you seek is not so much in what you can find aversion for but the intensity with which you are hit when you have aversion for anything which is also of a symbolic nature of itself. All symbolic.