04-17-2009, 08:32 AM
(04-17-2009, 08:09 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: Unfortunately the first thing I meet on Joachims page are books by this Jasmuheen lady. She's a known fraud. Her teachings killed 3 followers. When asked about this she claims that it is not her moral responsibility. And that these people were probably not coming from a place of integrity and did not have the right motivation. To be honest she raises the hair in the back of my neck.
Living on air Watch the whole thing, they put her in a hotel and keep an eye on her. She breaks down quicker than I did. Which is logical because I must be twice her weigth and half her age. Her defense is that they put her in a polluted part of the city. But really she's having the normal starvation reaction. And this was verified by a doctor.
I cannot put my faith in this. Certainly not in people like her. Discernment is vitally important. And one of the things it means is that we don't believe something just because it feels right.
I'm this guy from another planet who believes in our individual ability to perform miracles. I have no difficulty whatsoever accepting the realities of telepathy, telekinesis and our energy bodies, including healing done on those bodies. I'm so nutty I've got nuts to hand round... But even with the best intentions I cannot believe in this.
It was not my intent to stop eating permanently. I just wanted to see what would happen to me if I stopped eating. I never expected this to be permanent. More like exploration. The thing I learned is that it's not as hard as it seems, the process of breaking down is much more gradual than I expected. Apart from a slight physical weakness, the fog in my head and the obviously expected feelings of hunger the first few days I had no symptoms. And the thing I liked is that it puts your mind in a predatory mode. It would be much easier and enjoyable to go hunting when you're hungry than when you're stuffed. Apparently we're wired to survive.
You clearly see the exercises as important. Can you tell me why? I have my own spiritual exercises. I didn't change to another regiment.
You're jumping to conclusions too fast. He did mention her, but prior to introducing her "21 day process", he puts the following statement:
"Warning. Please, do not do the 21 day process unless you have thoroughly read and deeply considered the original description of the method, because if you have not, you may endanger your life. The description below is not enough to do it safely. I have included it here only for information purpose although Jasmuheen asked me to delete it (for safety reason)."
"None of the individuals known to me who had undergone the 21 day process became a non-eater as a result of it. But I know some people who had discovered, thanks to the 21 day process, that they could live without any food."
I'm not so confident about her neither, but that doesn't mean she is the only one on the field. Unlike her, this Joachim guy isn't charging for any of his services, and is relatively unknown. I sense he can be trusted, but everyone should be cautious. You can't just discredit the man before even giving him a shot. It's not like you would die the same instant you read his ideas.
Energizing exercise is what Joachim mentions, as well as what this non-eater I told you about was doing, though, he's not aware of Joachim. They are important, because using them you teach your body how to get the energy (prana) from the environment.
Dino