03-30-2017, 05:41 PM
(03-12-2017, 11:05 PM)SMC Wrote:(03-12-2017, 08:34 PM)Nicholas Wrote: I cant get behind the idea that my experiences were caused by a "patriarchy" though. I prefer to own them. I overheard my cousin talking about this type of patriarchy as if it was some kind of new conspiracy. Another reason to reject the present conditions and just get high instead. I also think it is healthier to develop a sense of gratitude rather than acknowledge a sense of advantage. The other trouble I have with the patriarch thing is that it does not, or at least has difficulty with the nature aspect. That's what I find to most dishonest about it. Not in any moral sense though. It's almost as if it the acknowledgement of it acts like a concession, and is therefore counterproductive.
can you explain further - what you mean by "the nature aspect" ? and "acts like a concession" ?
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Sure. So one reason contemporary feminism has seemed jarring to me is because it is nested within a cultural tone. That cultural tone, specifically, is a rejection of the old religious (patriarchal) structure, where discipline was more important than compassion, where exploration was more important than protection. What I have found to be internally jarring is that now we have a situation where compassion is more important than discipline, where protection is now more important than the free flow of adventurism. The consequence I perceive is a notable amount of narcissism and a focusing on single issue priorities, at the expense of an appreciation of how privileged we are to exist in a democratic regime, as well as a broader examination of the history of societies.
So "the nature aspect", as you pointed out with your "...as old as the sea bed" comment can be observed in the behaviour of lobsters. Male lobsters compete with each other as part of a mating ritual, and once the hierarchy has sorted itself out the dominant male has an unfettered mate choosing opportunity. This is a primordial instinct, or blueprint, that seems to be written in to the fabric of creation. That instinct, in this case is "I want to have sex with whom I choose but there are others that also want the same thing!". So the patriarchal model of oppression (which can be validly witnessed in Social Darwinist thinking) is nonetheless a distorted perception of what the root cause actually is.
As far as I can tell at this point in time, a typical chauvinist (patriarchal) male is frightened of the unknown (the precursor to suppression, which in turn is the precursor to oppression in Jungian psychology). The unknown manifests itself as a female.
And so now we have a cultural situation where not only the boundaries of discipline (call it the old world order if you like) have been demolished. We also have a situation where dissenting voices are labelled as "victim blaming", or "hate speech", or "misogynist", which completely disregards and nullifies the potential wisdom that could be imparted by such voices.