Transition from time/space to space/time

[Bring4th_Austin]

It's pretty fun to think about. Like anagogy said, other sources have claimed in a straightforward way that incarnating into the "past" is a possibility, or even having simultaneous incarnations alive at the same time.

In my own reading of the Ra material, there seems to be a heavy focus on progression. Not just of incarnating individuals, but just an overall type of progression of the universe. There is a sequence to how we got from infinity to the illusion we are at right now, or how we get from third density to fourth, or from one octave to the next. Some of these progressions may not necessarily be temporal progressions but just logical progressions. One of the hardest things about trying to grasp these time-bending concepts is that our third-density brains are so hard-wired to view progression as a temporal phenomenon that it's hard to understand what it means for time to have any non-linear qualities.

Acknowledging this third-density bias, I have to say that the sense I get from the Ra material (and the feeling I have in general) is that incarnations are generally more linear than other sources might imply. I say generally to leave room for the fact that in an infinite creation, there are infinite exceptions, but I do believe the exceptions are a deviation of some type of norm.


The time/space and space/time equivalence
The quote that anagogy shared is most revealing when it comes to trying to grasp what time/space is like. I do think that there is a wide range of interpretation that can go into it. When Ra says that all times are simultaneous in time/space, just as all space is existing in our space/time, there is an aspect of our space/time that I think is important to transfer in that equivalence - that is, even though all of space/time exists within our space/time experience, it is not all available to us.

Consider just how much of our current space/time is available to us as 3rd density beings. How much of our space/time do you see in your day to day lives? In your entire lifetime? It's a very small slice compared to our city, let alone our countries, planet, solar system, galaxy, universe. Sure, all of space is existing simultaneously, but how much of that can you travel? Theoretically, with the right technology, you could travel anywhere. I think similarly, theoretically, all of time could be available in time/space, but realistically, there are limitations on just what is available to us at certain points in our journey.

And even when we reach a certain point in our development where travel in space/time is unlimited due to disciplines of the personality, it doesn't mean that we would travel everywhere or anywhere. Ra supposedly could go anywhere in the universe, but they have stated limits to where they have physically traveled for whatever reason. It could be similar in time/space - an ability to incarnate at any time might be possible, but wouldn't be utilized for whatever reason.


There are some passages from the Ra material that I think speak to this view, such as:

71.6 The hallmark of time/space is the inequity between time and space. In your space/time the spatial orientation of material causes a tangible framework for illusion. In time/space the inequity is upon the shoulders of that property known to you as time. This property renders entities and experiences intangible in a relative sense. In your framework each particle or core vibration moves at a velocity which approaches what you call the speed of light from the direction of supraluminal velocities.

Thus the time/space or metaphysical experience is that which is very finely tuned and, although an analog of space/time, lacking in its tangible characteristics. In these metaphysical planes there is a great deal of what you call time which is used to review and re-review the biases and learn/teachings of a prior, as you would call it, space/time incarnation.

I see this quote as presenting another equivalence of space/time and time/space, in that it shows a limited portion of time available within this certain experience of time/space. There is certainly a great abundance of time available in this scenario, but it is limited within the scope of that entity's experiences and used for a specific purpose. I think the same could be said about how space/time experience.

I think this hints at the same thing:

70.17 I perceive a basic miscalculation upon your part in that time/space is no more homogenous than space/time. It is as complex and complete a system of illusions, dances, and pattern as is space/time and has as structured a system of what you may call natural laws.

It is the natural laws of space/time which limit our ability to traverse the infinite universe and be at any given space/time nexus, so similar time/space laws may prevent access to that "all of time" which is hypothetically available and limit us to a linear progression of incarnation.


Uncertain futures
A minor point which makes me think the way I do is that even to Ra, the past was (apparently) fixed, while the future was uncertain. They could speak only in probabilities and possibilities, and they themselves could not see how their actions would unfold along a linear path. Yet they were able to speak about events of the past with more surety, as if it were already determined.

In my mind, this would lead to a logical conclusion that the "past" incarnations are in our linear "past." They have happened, they have contributed to our present balance and configuration, and we have arrived at the present nexus through those events which are not solidified in the past. The events have happened.

Were incarnation able to happen along a less linear path, the past and future would not be so distinctly different for Ra. Our current incarnations could be from our "future selves," future selves which have already experienced lifetimes in the future. But if the future has "already happened," why is it only a possibility/probability? And Ra, existing at a similar level as the Higher Self, explicitly says that they are not yet free of the past/present/future progression of time:

36.5 Questioner: Could you give an example of an entity, possibly one from our historical past, possibly any entity that you might choose if you don’t wish to name one, and give an example of how this type of programming by the higher self would then bring about the education through parallel experiences please?

Ra: I am Ra. Perhaps the simplest example of this apparent simultaneity of existence of two selves, which are in truth one self at the same time/space, is this: the Oversoul, as you call it, or Higher Self, seems to exist simultaneously with the mind/body/spirit complex which it aids. This is not actually simultaneous, for the Higher Self is moving to the mind/body/spirit complex as needed from a position in development of the entity which would be considered in the future of this entity.

(It's important to note that there is a unique relationship between the mind/body/spirit complex totality and the Higher Self, both existing at different "points" of progression. The totality likely is not beholden to linear time and it has gifted the Higher Self with a certain type of ability or knowledge of the progression of the entity without revealing the actual events of the "future.")

We will reincarnate and make decisions about our reincarnation up to a certain point of our progression. Up to the point of progression that Ra is at, the future is still an unknown thing, and the past is more solidified. And so I think it's logical to assume that our decisions about our reincarnation will be determined by this linear view of time.

And this quote conveniently brings up my final point, which is about simultaneous incarnations. The idea of a non-linear progression would also support a concept of simultaneous incarnations. Your current incarnation might be further along in progression than another incarnation at the same time in another part of the world.

But the example Ra gives is of the Higher Self, which is a distinctly different concept than having just any random point of progression existing simultaneously to another random point of progression. The Higher Self is a specific being, a specific part of our progression, and that it exists at the same time is mystifying, but not evidence that we incarnate into simultaneous experiences. (Slightly different topic than the OP, but still relevant I think.)


But I will end with reiterating that what I find logical will obviously be highly colored by my current third-density mind which necessarily defines things in the sense of temporal progression. Ra's words were not definitive or conclusive, I only draw a certain conclusion from them, and that conclusion is obviously biased by my experience. This is another topic that seems just wide open for imagination and interpretation.