03-10-2017, 02:50 PM
(03-10-2017, 01:40 PM)Spaced Wrote: Most men don't understand the emotional effort that goes into women having to constantly explain and justify their experiences and opinions to men. Men think "I do not experience this so why should I care? Tell me, tell me why I should care." And as SMC pointed out, that's bullshit. Why should the burden always be on the oppressed to prove they experience oppression? Men can and should educate themselves, there's huge amounts of literature on the topic.
Why should people have to participate in discussions that start from the idea that femisism is wrong (posted during women's history month no less)? Why is there any need to justify the movement for social justice and equality? Why are people put on trial for demanding basic human rights? By demanding that the oppressed prove their oppression or shouting down their points you are directly contributing to that oppression.
Women do not enjoy the same level of freedom as men. That is a fact. Feminism may be unpalatable to some or may trigger cognitive dissonance since it goes against your beliefs, but regardless there are MUCH BIGGER ISSUES than whether or not feminism "goes too far." Feminism is necessary until structural gender inequality is rectified, after that you can complain about it going too far.
Meanwhile the real source of oppression is what we should be concerned about, and that is the profit-driven capitalist system which thrives off the oppression of certain sectors of the population.
The burden of seeking to be understood always lie on who feels misunderstood, there is no avoiding that.
Also I think the point of the thread was not that feminism goes too far, but that it fails hard at what it attempts to do and there's probably reasons to distill for that to be case. Everything is energy and the notion of polarity dictates what any action will entertain within reality. Are you acting out of feelings of unity, spreading them? Or are you acting out of feelings of separation, spreading them?
You can't read online perspectives in an attempt to understand a specific person's perspective. I can go read texts of women that are against feminism just as much as I can read texts about women that are for feminism, does that help me understand a particular person of this forum? No it does not, I'll just gain an understanding of each writer and their own focus and distortions.