03-05-2017, 08:31 PM
(03-04-2017, 06:32 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:Quote:Jade, I especially believe that you are now just as much in hatred as you perceive e_s to be. My admiration of the female form is of its divinity. The body is a tool, I speak of admiring that which uses a tool so elegantly and eloquently and so powerfully in abstract and intuitive ways. I speak of an appreciation for the divine unconsciousness that is the feminine. Please understand... I'm being assigned traits others perceive of me. I just want us all to be treated with equality, and to not be inured or encumbered by the inequality perceived to be between us all...
You want to know what about this is frustrating? People would prefer to pretend things don't exist than to actually deal with problems. It's also a root illness in our society. Oh, I have a cold, better take some sudafed! Oh, a stomach ache? Drink that pepto bismol. We're all too happy to smooth over what may be perceived as "catalyst" by displacing it, numbing it, by taking a sip of the panacea of Oneness and moving on with our day.
Saying that we need to just focus on equality doesn't HEAL the problem. It forces an equilibrium that cannot be maintained without discussing thoroughly the underlying causes of the issue. To refuse to acknowledge these issues, to minimize them, invalidates people who have actually been hurt. We know as students of the Law of One that you can't just remove the tumor and hope the cancer goes away - you have to find the root cause (and it's probably not something so obvious as cigarettes). It takes hard, long work. You say you want to come to a common ground, but this takes many words exchanged and understanding towards those who you understand the least. I'm definitely working on the same goal that you are, whether you see it or not.
e_s posted a link to a blog that threw around "rape" in such a cavalier way - in fact, this is probably what I found most "hateful": his endorsement of the blog links, of which I only got through one. I've actually been raped. I've been objectified more times than I can count, repeatedly called a "dyke" while out at bars with short hair but not paying attention to men, disowned by my father for supporting my husband financially in his creative pursuits, been told by strangers that I'm "too pretty to have tattoos". Do you see why it is incendiary to post things like "Well I do love the female form" when our aestheticism has been the thing that has the most value? Should I have felt honor that I was raped because he was just so attracted to me that he couldn't help himself? This is the type of rhetoric people unconsciously perpetuate when they try to force others to ignore societal imbalances. This is exactly what I'm talking about. I'm being labeled as hateful because I refused to validate a comment about my physical appearance.
Here is a quote from Martin Luther King Jr that pretty much sums up my feelings on the subject. It's about racism, but I wasn't the first to draw the equivalency:
Quote:"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."
What does Ra say about "justice" and healing our planet?
Quote:26.30 Questioner: And then, can you describe the mechanism of the planetary healing?
Ra: I am Ra. Healing is a process of acceptance, forgiveness, and, if possible, restitution. The restitution not being available in time/space, there are many among your peoples now attempting restitution while in the physical.
C_A, if you still sincerely feel that I'm being more hateful than e_s, or making less of an attempt to be open and honest with my feelings, that you really should take a hard look at the biases you are carrying. Either way, I'm regretting that the post got deleted, because I'm afraid this is just the beginning of the gaslighting that is about to occur.
(03-04-2017, 08:41 PM)Diana Wrote:(03-04-2017, 06:32 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: What does Ra say about "justice" and healing our planet?
Quote:26.30 Questioner: And then, can you describe the mechanism of the planetary healing?
Ra: I am Ra. Healing is a process of acceptance, forgiveness, and, if possible, restitution. The restitution not being available in time/space, there are many among your peoples now attempting restitution while in the physical.
It seems to me Ra is pointing out that it is not possible to get restitution beyond the physical, presumably because one likely wouldn't care at that point and perhaps there is no purpose beyond the physical. Restitution, to me, derives from a desire to be "paid back," or in a negative version, revenge.
Healing, for some people, may require restitution. But if you accept, and forgive, or rather, detach and let go, why would restitution be needed? In the context of this discussion regarding the oppression of women, how would it apply? I can see how in 3rd-world countries there might be programs to help women start businesses and the like. But here in the US, how is restitution made for sexual innuendo, insults, sexism, misogyny? I can't see how holding ignorance to the flame is helpful.
Any thoughts?
I believe this points to balancing out past experiences.
Quote:9.2 Questioner: Is it possible for you to tell us of anything in our past incarnations, our past experiences before this incarnation?
Ra: I am Ra. It is possible. However, such information as this is carefully guarded by your mind/body/spirit being totality so that your present space/time experiences will be undiluted.
Let us scan for harmless material for your beingness. [20-second pause.] I am, in the distortion of desire for your freedom from preconception, able to speak only generally. There have been several times when this group worked and dwelt together. The relationships varied. There is balanced karma, as you call it; each thus the teacher of each. The work has involved healing, understanding the uses of the earth energy, and work in aid of civilizations which called just as your sphere has done and we have come. This ends the material which we consider harmless.
The planetary healing of "restitution" sounds like collective karma.
So my supposition is that "restitution" is using space/time to balance out past life "missteps". I also think that the Ra contact itself is predicated upon a restorative intention.
Quote:34.5 Questioner: If an entity develops what is called a karma in an incarnation, is there then programming that sometimes occurs so that he will experience catalyst that will enable him to get to a point of forgiveness thereby alleviating the karma?
Ra: I am Ra. This is, in general, correct. However, both self and any involved other-self may, at any time through the process of understanding, acceptance, and forgiveness, ameliorate these patterns. This is true at any point in an incarnative pattern. Thus one who has set in motion an action may forgive itself and never again make that error. This also brakes or stops what you call karma.
So the "oppression" of women is not really oppression in our western culture, if you compare it with middle eastern models. What is occurring in the west is that some males have not progressed past his "seek sex" instincts.
Males are programmed that way for a reason as it ensures the survival of the species, and also explains why they are more competitive. They are hard wired, biochemically, to pursue the object of their desire, and the West has an economic structure that acknowledges this. This is why Capitalism has succeeded more than any other system, because it recognises natural programming. The best economic structures (ie the most productive) on our planet are those that have gender equality values. When a women is free to choose the whole economy prospers. A man is then free to choose more physical work without feeling guilty of being born with able biceps, and a woman is more free to choose without being objectified by her able breasts.
Intellectual feminism (ideological) seems more concerned with protecting people from catalyst (which is antithetical to freedom). The manifestation of political correctness is a clear example of trying to create laws that protect us from uncomfortable expressions and ideas. The West has an underdeveloped male population and 3rd wave feminism is partly responsible for it. One of the shortcomings in this feminist theory is that males should feel somewhat guilty for being male. For succumbing to their instinctual urges and making instinctual propositions. They are definitely immature but that does not make them oppressors!
"the great cat" is depicted as a male in the animal world because a masculine trait is to "seek" new territory. Feminist ideology interprets this as patriarchal or predatory. An immature male seeks sex, but a mature male seeks ideas. That's why the history of philosophy is dominated by males.
So those are my thoughts, that "Feminism" has turned into an assault on masculinity, as an antidote to the immature aspects of masculinity.