03-04-2017, 03:51 PM
Eh heh, um. I just want to say, I don't see these accusations being made, here, on b4. Maybe I misunderstood e_s cause I consider him a friend but I didn't see him exclusively say 'all women are lazy' or 'all women manipulate', don't over generalize an already generalized statement.
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B. That women blew up on him for his opinion, and then his being a man being the reason, are all hypocritical double standards for this very topic.
C. I clump racism and sexism as things worthy of being discussed together because at the most core of their roots, are the same causes.
D. I will now attempt to meet you all as a human being to other human beings, not a man to a group, but a human.
Semantics have now muddied this discussion into a debate of man and woman getting jumpy at each other's throats (symbolic metaphor).
Lets step back, and disassemble this debate back into a discussion.
When I ask how something should be handled, and you instead say 'this' is the real question, I feel like I've been ignored because I'm a man. I am a guy, yes, okay, I'm sorry for that, but I shouldn't have to be! I say I see man and woman as equal, and you get mad at me. I say I see no reason to differentiate, and I'm met with pushing of differentiation.
I say I don't see e_s claiming what is being claimed of him, and I'm ignored, seemingly because he and I are men making perhaps ignorant and biased opinions.
Now why don't you tell me why you view this as reason to defend yourself? He's not talking about anyone here (I strongly assume for him), he's not saying what you're all saying he's saying. He's just giving an opinion.
I didn't say anything about SMC, except that by her logic of finding b4 detuned based on the opinions in this thread, that the entire world is detuned. Speaking of detuned, I've seen 'detuned' conversation on b4 as far back as 2009, people like that, who bring such catalyst are integral to the spiritual example this community can show and set. Instead I see the same thing. Someone says an opinion, someone gets angry, a battle of groups begins.
Who here has tried to make a bridge of understanding to something they judge as wholly ignorant and even abusive? Who here has said, Wait! Listen! Lets love and forgive rather than fight?
I want that, now. I demand it of you all as a seeker seeking love in a place of seekers seeking love.
Lets all just step back, and try this again, please? We're devolving into a fight, we're better than this. Lets fight to understand each other, not to defeat one another.
I believe women, and racial minorities, are oppressed to this day on Earth in parts and places. I believe white men are overly privileged (said the privileged white man), and I believe womankind and the divine feminine have been constantly attacked by an over embroidered masculinity.
I believe the only way to end this inequality is to show equality until it catches on with the rest. Women's rights are STILL not ratified by all the state's of America. In israel its basically a crime to be a woman without a man.
You don't want to call me sexist, I'm aware of my feelings of misogyny, I refuse to allow them or the decade of porn brainwashing to make me truly feel a woman is any different from I.
I greatly admire the female form, it is truly one of divine beauty that should be treated with integrity, dignity, pride, love, and respect.
I feel (less sexually so) the same about the male formations and energies.
I feel the same on racial levels.
Lets not begin pushing to expose our differences. Lets find some spiritual solutions to these problems, then from there figure out how to combat the various energies that obscure this solution finding scheme.
Remember, male is female, female is male. Let's not be upset by someone's opinion because of who they are saying it.
A.
B. That women blew up on him for his opinion, and then his being a man being the reason, are all hypocritical double standards for this very topic.
C. I clump racism and sexism as things worthy of being discussed together because at the most core of their roots, are the same causes.
D. I will now attempt to meet you all as a human being to other human beings, not a man to a group, but a human.
Semantics have now muddied this discussion into a debate of man and woman getting jumpy at each other's throats (symbolic metaphor).
Lets step back, and disassemble this debate back into a discussion.
When I ask how something should be handled, and you instead say 'this' is the real question, I feel like I've been ignored because I'm a man. I am a guy, yes, okay, I'm sorry for that, but I shouldn't have to be! I say I see man and woman as equal, and you get mad at me. I say I see no reason to differentiate, and I'm met with pushing of differentiation.
I say I don't see e_s claiming what is being claimed of him, and I'm ignored, seemingly because he and I are men making perhaps ignorant and biased opinions.
Now why don't you tell me why you view this as reason to defend yourself? He's not talking about anyone here (I strongly assume for him), he's not saying what you're all saying he's saying. He's just giving an opinion.
I didn't say anything about SMC, except that by her logic of finding b4 detuned based on the opinions in this thread, that the entire world is detuned. Speaking of detuned, I've seen 'detuned' conversation on b4 as far back as 2009, people like that, who bring such catalyst are integral to the spiritual example this community can show and set. Instead I see the same thing. Someone says an opinion, someone gets angry, a battle of groups begins.
Who here has tried to make a bridge of understanding to something they judge as wholly ignorant and even abusive? Who here has said, Wait! Listen! Lets love and forgive rather than fight?
I want that, now. I demand it of you all as a seeker seeking love in a place of seekers seeking love.
Lets all just step back, and try this again, please? We're devolving into a fight, we're better than this. Lets fight to understand each other, not to defeat one another.
I believe women, and racial minorities, are oppressed to this day on Earth in parts and places. I believe white men are overly privileged (said the privileged white man), and I believe womankind and the divine feminine have been constantly attacked by an over embroidered masculinity.
I believe the only way to end this inequality is to show equality until it catches on with the rest. Women's rights are STILL not ratified by all the state's of America. In israel its basically a crime to be a woman without a man.
You don't want to call me sexist, I'm aware of my feelings of misogyny, I refuse to allow them or the decade of porn brainwashing to make me truly feel a woman is any different from I.
I greatly admire the female form, it is truly one of divine beauty that should be treated with integrity, dignity, pride, love, and respect.
I feel (less sexually so) the same about the male formations and energies.
I feel the same on racial levels.
Lets not begin pushing to expose our differences. Lets find some spiritual solutions to these problems, then from there figure out how to combat the various energies that obscure this solution finding scheme.
Remember, male is female, female is male. Let's not be upset by someone's opinion because of who they are saying it.