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    10-22-2010, 09:29 AM
    (10-21-2010, 07:44 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: But Ra says "it would not be our awareness, but simply awareness of the Creator. In the Creator is all that there is. Therefore, this knowledge would be available."

    So I agree with Quantum that the Creator carries forward what it learns in this octave, but individual entities don't do so as individuals because they have merged back into the Creator.

    [quote='βαθμιαίος' pid='21617' dateline='1287704697']
    I agree that this could be interpreted in the way you suggest, but it could also be interpreted to mean that they will experience every density because they are part of the one infinite being. Given Ra's other comments that I have posted above, I think the latter is the safer interpretation.

    Hi βαθμιαίος,

    I understand what you're saying, but I think there is a middle ground. First, recall that we know from Ra that there are entities that move between Octaves.

    The Law of One, Book IV, Session 81 Wrote:Questioner: Why does Ra not have any knowledge of that which was prior to the beginning of this octave?

    Ra: I am Ra. Let us compare octaves to islands. It may be that the inhabitants of an island are not alone upon a planetary sphere, but if an ocean-going vehicle in which one may survive has not been invented, true knowledge of other islands is possible only if an entity comes among the islanders and says, “I am from elsewhere.” This is a rough analogy. However, we have evidence of this sort, both of previous creation and
    creation to be, as we in the stream of space/time and time/space view these apparently non-simultaneous events.

    Given this fact, it seems apparent that consciousnesses can cross Octaves. Also recall that our planet is actually under the protection of entities from the next octave.

    Law of One, Book III, Session 51 Wrote:The third group watching over this process is that group you call the Guardians. This group is from the octave above our own and serves in this manner as light bringers. These Guardians provide the precise emissions of light/love in exquisitely fastidious disseminations of discrimination so that the precise light/love vibration of each entity may be ascertained.

    Granted, this does not mean that each and every conscious entity exists across the octaves, but it seems clear that at least some do. To your point about the knowledge being available (and my proposed middle ground): Would it not be rather straightforward for One with infinite intelligence to reconstitute a conscious entity in a new octave, at whatever stage of evolution of the entity IT desired, in order to allow the the consciousness to complete its evolutionary path, given the fact that it has brought all the knowledge of the entity with it into the new octave?

    Forgive me Quantum, if I may be taking your thread off topic. Perhaps it would be worthwhile to create a thread about crossing the octaves. I believe that there is much fertile ground to be plowed here.

    Love and Light,

    3D Sunset

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    Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-05-2010, 11:18 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Aaron - 10-05-2010, 11:49 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-05-2010, 12:36 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by ricdaw - 10-05-2010, 12:59 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by LsavedSmeD - 10-05-2010, 12:03 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Turtle - 10-05-2010, 12:49 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Aaron - 10-05-2010, 01:03 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-05-2010, 03:04 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by ricdaw - 10-05-2010, 07:52 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Lavazza - 10-11-2010, 01:56 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-11-2010, 08:10 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Lavazza - 10-12-2010, 11:15 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-13-2010, 07:04 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-13-2010, 11:13 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Lavazza - 10-13-2010, 11:30 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Turtle - 10-14-2010, 08:37 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Aaron - 10-06-2010, 04:28 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Steppingfeet - 10-05-2010, 03:11 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-05-2010, 05:23 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Etude in B Minor - 10-05-2010, 09:43 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Questioner - 10-06-2010, 11:46 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Namaste - 10-06-2010, 06:50 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-07-2010, 09:54 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-07-2010, 10:10 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-08-2010, 06:34 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-08-2010, 11:32 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-09-2010, 12:47 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-09-2010, 09:48 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-09-2010, 06:17 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by 3D Sunset - 10-09-2010, 10:25 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-09-2010, 08:51 PM
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    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-09-2010, 10:40 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-09-2010, 11:04 PM
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    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-10-2010, 11:22 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-11-2010, 07:24 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-13-2010, 11:33 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-14-2010, 12:25 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-14-2010, 01:44 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-14-2010, 09:33 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-14-2010, 02:06 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Turtle - 10-14-2010, 03:23 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-14-2010, 06:23 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by 3D Sunset - 10-14-2010, 10:57 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-14-2010, 11:44 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Lavazza - 10-14-2010, 12:39 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-14-2010, 04:58 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-15-2010, 02:10 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-15-2010, 03:42 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-14-2010, 07:56 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-15-2010, 04:36 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-15-2010, 05:23 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-15-2010, 06:27 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-15-2010, 07:14 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-15-2010, 08:27 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-15-2010, 06:32 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-15-2010, 08:53 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-15-2010, 10:31 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Crimson - 10-15-2010, 11:00 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-15-2010, 11:37 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Crimson - 10-16-2010, 12:24 AM
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    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-17-2010, 01:51 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-17-2010, 06:48 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-17-2010, 06:56 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-17-2010, 11:36 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-16-2010, 08:33 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-17-2010, 10:05 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-17-2010, 10:09 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-17-2010, 11:40 PM
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    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-18-2010, 12:35 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-19-2010, 07:26 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-20-2010, 12:17 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-20-2010, 11:15 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Lavazza - 10-20-2010, 02:48 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-20-2010, 11:24 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-21-2010, 12:31 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Crimson - 10-29-2010, 03:51 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-18-2010, 11:52 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-19-2010, 01:08 AM
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    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by CircleofOne - 10-19-2010, 07:53 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by CircleofOne - 10-20-2010, 01:15 PM
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    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Etude in B Minor - 10-20-2010, 05:38 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by CircleofOne - 10-20-2010, 07:48 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-21-2010, 02:44 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-21-2010, 02:52 PM
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    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Steppingfeet - 10-21-2010, 03:04 PM
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