10-18-2010, 01:20 AM
i very much think that they do. because, for they to come into being in any given octave, they (or whatever causing them to exist) had to exist before the octave in the first place.
also, if as such, it explains the concept of 'focus' and, 'infinite intelligence finding focus, and becoming creator' concepts we are given by Ra; there is stillness in timeless phase, yet, at the start of an octave, the stillness finds a focus point that generates differentiation, bump, a wave, and this focus keep vibrating, distorting, and with its ripples, lesser focuses that are nearby that focus (in any sense possible of being near, or relevant) also appear. and they, in turn generate more vibrations, and the ripples/vibrations they are sending, find lesser focuses, and hence an entire existence comes into being. this also explains the infinite 'co-creator' sequence that goes from the first initial focus, down to thought forms (and probably even deeper). it also explains how everything, conceptually, are the same and have the same basic blueprint (metaphorically) ; we are all ripples/waves vibrating in the stillness of a sea.
the only thing to be discerned here is, does there have to be one first focus, one first 'creator', or, are these focuses (for each individual octave) are more than one, for each octave. and, the central focuses for each octave - are they just 'future' manifestations of an earlier octave's first focus, or, are they timeless, direct manifestations of infinite intelligence.
a possibility is, the focuses (existing ones, finites, the entire consciousness furball they - us- constitute) go from focus to focus, octave to octave.
so, they are independent of each other in a sense that, they can move like the ripples on a sea surface. another possibility is, all the manifesting focuses in an octave, are actually interconnected, and they focus on a central point, manifest in an octave, then coalesce, and then keep existing timeless until they find another focus, together.
intermediate possibilities also can exist - it could be possible that, just like how an entity can change the planets it incarnates, the focuses participating in an octave may join/leave an octave group, ie, a focus group. or then again, they may be tied to and dependent on each other for existence.
also, if as such, it explains the concept of 'focus' and, 'infinite intelligence finding focus, and becoming creator' concepts we are given by Ra; there is stillness in timeless phase, yet, at the start of an octave, the stillness finds a focus point that generates differentiation, bump, a wave, and this focus keep vibrating, distorting, and with its ripples, lesser focuses that are nearby that focus (in any sense possible of being near, or relevant) also appear. and they, in turn generate more vibrations, and the ripples/vibrations they are sending, find lesser focuses, and hence an entire existence comes into being. this also explains the infinite 'co-creator' sequence that goes from the first initial focus, down to thought forms (and probably even deeper). it also explains how everything, conceptually, are the same and have the same basic blueprint (metaphorically) ; we are all ripples/waves vibrating in the stillness of a sea.
the only thing to be discerned here is, does there have to be one first focus, one first 'creator', or, are these focuses (for each individual octave) are more than one, for each octave. and, the central focuses for each octave - are they just 'future' manifestations of an earlier octave's first focus, or, are they timeless, direct manifestations of infinite intelligence.
a possibility is, the focuses (existing ones, finites, the entire consciousness furball they - us- constitute) go from focus to focus, octave to octave.
so, they are independent of each other in a sense that, they can move like the ripples on a sea surface. another possibility is, all the manifesting focuses in an octave, are actually interconnected, and they focus on a central point, manifest in an octave, then coalesce, and then keep existing timeless until they find another focus, together.
intermediate possibilities also can exist - it could be possible that, just like how an entity can change the planets it incarnates, the focuses participating in an octave may join/leave an octave group, ie, a focus group. or then again, they may be tied to and dependent on each other for existence.