Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself?

[Ali Quadir]

we have talked this before in another thread, and you have repeated it yet again.

potentially containing infinity inside oneself, because the oneself will exist for infinite amount of time and create infinite refractions, does not make that one infinity itself. see, you are there, you claim that you are infinity, yet, i am also here, and i am saying that you are not infinity, even if you are, in principle, infinite.

you do not even encompass me, or bring yourself to encompass me, or even bring yourself to encompass the ideas i am proposing. yet, you claim to be infinity.

infinity encompasses all of these, as of this moment.

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yet, you are here, in this manifestation, exploring precisely the many-ness that is a finite concept, being one yourself.

if something can be explored, it means, it exists. therefore, finity, and manyness, exist.

the parts you bolded approach infinity from 'existing', side, from the 'creator' side. as of now, that creator, the thing existing, the very thing which needs being one, and united in order to be infinite, is, spread into infinite many-nesses, and is discovering many-nesses.

moreover, and most importantly, there is something that allows that unity to be able to spread into infinite manynesses, enabling it to spread into different aspects and characteristics and manifestations that is present inside it.

we are told that, infinite intelligence, finds focus. what is that focus. what does that focus even mean ? if everything is united, and one, and infinite, how is infinite intelligence finding focuses, to manifest a creation ?

what is the thing that allows it to find focuses, and allows it to divide into many-nesses to experience it ?

you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things

Distortion is how the infinite can be perceived as the many. You are trying to see as many that which is one. Thus you distort yourself. You are doing this by seeing a timeline in something that is an eternal now moment. Which is good unless you then proceed to consider the timeline reality. The map, as they say, is not the territory.

You are correct in stating that manyness exists. However, it is not what it seems to be. The illusory nature of manyness is demonstrated by religion, science and the Law of One itself. None of these are working in a vacuum. And they all describe the same reality from their unique perspective.

16.19 Questioner: Can you give me some kind of history of your social memory complex and how you became aware of the Law of One?
Ra: I am Ra. The path of our learning is graven in the present moment. There is no history, as we understand your concept. Picture, if you will, a circle of being. We know the alpha and omega as infinite intelligence. The circle never ceases. It is present. The densities we have traversed at various points in the circle correspond to the characteristics of cycles: first, the cycle of awareness; second, the cycle of growth; third, the cycle of self-awareness; fourth, the cycle of love or understanding; fifth, the cycle of light or wisdom; sixth, the cycle of light/love, love/light or unity; seventh, the gateway cycle; eighth, the octave which moves into a mystery we do not plumb.

Not only did Ra borrow here the alpha and omega. An ancient metaphor for God. Thus linking it to our concepts. He qualifies that there is only the present moment. While you're cutting things up into an "first", "next", "and then" story.. This is useful in discerning different qualities of the thing you're cutting up. But it should not be mistaken for the whole once it's cut up. This reality is not cut up, it's a unity.

The alpha and omega, Ouroboros, the being that causes himself. Also the sign of infinity in our symbology. Ra isn't telling anything new here. He's just being exceptionally lucid about it.

We are infinity, the veil of distortions exist because we want to experience an alternative to "the complete unity of thought which binds all things". But it is not a requirement, it is not the deeper reality. All these alternatives exist within the eternal moment where the complete unity of thought exists. Our limited awareness does not mean we are not Gods.

You're saying we're infinite in principle, think about it, what does that mean? That I'm infinite in Ra's theory but reality doesn't match this theory? Then Ra's theory must be wrong, or you're not seeing straight. Infinity is an experiential reality, even to us mere mortals, in spite of the distortions of daily life we experience lucid moments.