(10-15-2010, 12:19 PM)thefool Wrote: I think most of your questions have been answered right here by you. I agree that we are o where close to the ideal. I believe as you do that this is due to STS infiltration to power seeking and grabbing positions.
Agreed.
(10-15-2010, 12:19 PM)thefool Wrote: But like I mentioned in my last post- The opportunities for total power grab and total corruption is minimized in the system based on individuals while a socialist system lends itself to complete control and dominance by one small elite group.
Disagree. I don't think the socialist system is any more susceptible to corruption. If anything, it may be less so in certain respects, while the capitalist system may be more or less so in other respects.
I think a lot of this is just that we've been taught to believe the capitalist system is superior. The word socialist has a lot of negative connotations. They typically spit the word (as they do liberal) as though it were the epitome of evil, totally glossing over the fact that BOTH systems have susceptibility to corruption.
This is indoctrination. In order to get even a hint at the truth, I would rather learn from those who live in other countries, as to what their reality is like, rather than just believing what our government and mass media tell us.
Needless to say, the socialist countries have their own indoctrination. I'm just saying it works both ways. I think it's a myth that one system is inherently good while the other bad. Both have certain good qualities. The socialist system has ideals of serving the common good, while the capitalist system has ideals of individual freedom. The former is susceptible to suppressing freedoms, while the latter is susceptible to greed AND suppressing freedoms, with, if anything, even more deception, since it is under the guise of freedom. Most people here in the US are oblivious to the machinations of the government behind the scenes. They are oblivious to the manipulation and control of elections. They have the illusion that they are freely choosing their own leaders. Nothing could be further from the truth.
It works both ways. It's a tossup as to which one has more STS influence. I don't think we can begin to calculate that.