10-14-2010, 02:06 PM
(10-14-2010, 09:33 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: It's only fair to produce the supplying of references or logic to support ones opinion when requested. If you then proceed to describe religious fundamentalism adding to that that your discussion partner isn't one, but maybe remotely looks like it. That's not a fair response to a fair request... In fact that's intellectual dishonesty... "i am not saying that you are an intellectually dishonest person. however, the pattern, is basically the same."
If we speak from the Law of One, and consider Ra an authority, we must conclude that there is one infinite creator. We must also conclude Ra considers us Him...
Quote:1.5 Questioner: (The question was lost because the questioner was sitting too far from the tape recorder to be recorded.)
Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, that the universe is infinite. This has yet to be proven or disproven, but we can assure you that there is no end to your selves, your understanding, what you would call your journey of seeking, or your perceptions of the creation.
That which is infinite cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept. To have infinity you must identify or define that infinity as unity; otherwise, the term does not have any referent or meaning. In an Infinite Creator there is only unity. You have seen simple examples of unity. You have seen the prism which shows all colors stemming from the sunlight. This is a simplistic example of unity.
In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.
If Ra knew there was one additional level he would have mentioned it. He didn't... Therefore I have to agree with Quantum.. Unless actual evidence of the opposite, which is different from opinion, becomes available.
i always provide references to starting points of any conclusion. there has been no case in which i havent. in the cases i havent given a direct link to a particular quote, it means that i think it is a very obvious, unforgettable q/a relating to the detailed topic at hand, and someone who is attempting to discuss in that detail, would remember the relevant quote. if the person doesnt remember, it can mean either of two things :
- the person havent carefully read or reflected on the relevant material in the Ra material regarding subject. but, s/he is attempting to discuss on it. it is totally illogical.
- the person remembers them, but, consciously and intentionally avoiding them because it is detrimental to his/her belief, argument, perspective.
in either case, its that person's responsibility. at most, the person can be referred to the place where core of the discussion has been made regarding the topic, containing the links and references that were provided for any kind of conclusion or reasoning, with huge, half page posts in 6-7 pages.
and from that point on, if the person still keeps restating, rephrasing, and reiterating the arguments that were already discussed in that topic, then it becomes a pointless repetition.
noone has the obligation to reiterate 7 page full of half page posts, just because someone comes and repeats something.
Quote:If Ra knew there was one additional level he would have mentioned it. He didn't... Therefore I have to agree with Quantum.. Unless actual evidence of the opposite, which is different from opinion, becomes available.
that is a good example of selectively forgetting material :
http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=13&ss=1#5
Quote:13.5 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me of the first known thing in the creation?
Ra: I am Ra. The first known thing in the creation is infinity. The infinity is creation.
Category: Cosmology
13.6 Questioner: From this infinity then must come what we experience as creation. What was the next step or the next evolvement?
Ra: I am Ra. Infinity became aware. This was the next step.
Category: Cosmology
13.7 Questioner: After this, what came next?
Ra: I am Ra. Awareness led to the focus of infinity into infinite energy. You have called this by various vibrational sound complexes, the most common to your ears being “Logos” or “Love.” The Creator is the focusing of infinity as an aware or conscious principle called by us as closely as we can create understanding/learning in your language, intelligent infinity.
there are levels, as you see in here. and what is named as 'creator', is the focusing of infinity as an aware or conscious principle.
it is not infinity itself, directly. infinity first gains awareness, and then its focus, becomes the creator.
i shouldnt have to link this, for example. because, this was discussed before, and you were in that thread. yet, you have forgotten it, and picked some other q/a, and despite, it doesnt directly support the logic that is being proposed, you still accepted it.
everything being in infinity, doesnt make infinity 'the creator'.