10-14-2010, 01:42 AM
If the Law of One material is basically correct, then it seems to me that there are some certain consequences for one who seeks to polarize to the positive, service-to-others path.
One consequence is that becoming harvestable to 4D+ is of primary importance.
For a positively oriented Seeker, 4D- would be excruciating hell: to be trapped in a circumstance where every moment is confronted with shapeshifting evildoers focused entirely upon enslavement.
For a positively oriented Seeker, missing the Harvest, for another 25,000 years of 3D existence behind the Veil, would be purgatory. To come so close to the opportunity to be free of the limitations of 3D life, and yet to miss it, would be tortuous.
Now it also seems to me that the Choice of polarity is not a single decision, but the sum total of all the conscious and unconscious experiences of the mind/body/spirit complex. Some experiences serve to open the MBS complex to less distorted usage and onward passage of certain colors of experience, catalyst, or energy patterns. Other experiences serve to close the MBS complex's receptiveness to certain colors of catalyst.
Leaving aside the green energy for a moment, the other energy colors must be individually open, and also opened to a balanced extent, for the MBS complex to be harvestable. In addition, green response must be significantly open for a positive harvest and almost entirely closed for a negative harvest.
Ra said, "To a mind/body/spirit complex which is starving, the appropriate response is the feeding of the body. You may extrapolate from this." I believe a realistic extrapolation is: To a MBS complex which is in physical pain and disintegration, that is preventable by medical treatment, the appropriate response is the medical treatment of the body.
Now I may well have a significant opportunity to ensure the provision of such treatment to one who needs it, and who suffers greatly without it. I believe that I can use money transfer as a means to ensure this provision. Ra mentioned Albert Schweitzer as an example of a spiritually evolved MBS complex along the positive path of service to others.
I've read Schweitzer's book, which I believe is another of the classic inspirational books of all time in terms of describing a life of devoted service to one's fellow man. I have also studied other information about Schweitzer, and I believe I am reasonably well informed about the nature of his life and beliefs.
Ra mentioned Schweitzer's fundraising efforts as an example of vigorous yellow-ray activity within the context of a life successfully polarizing towards service to others. If money donated for medical expenses for others was inherently evil, than Ra would be utterly misguided in this very clear description of Schweitzer's altruistic hospital as a positive expression of compassionate love through the open-hearted green ray.
If I was given the money to, like Schweitzer but on a much smaller scale, fund medical care for someone who needed it; and I chose to spend the money this way: I believe there would clearly be no problem or objection to my spending the money this way. If there was, then Ra is utterly misguided about Schweitzer.
Now here is where we get to the core of my vigorous disagreement with unity100's point of view. I continue to be stunned and shocked by u100's insistence that any form of profit is a form of oppressive evil. I believe this position is a matter of religious faith, which does not hold up to logical scrutiny and is not necessary for a person who seeks to follow the Law of One on a positive path of service to others. I believe the implications of this position, if followed to its logical conclusion, are extraordinarily evil in practice; and that these implications are seldom followed to their logical conclusions.
The logical conclusion of the "profit = evil" mantra is that those who set out to create a profit in business, and succeed at this goal, are always inherently doing evil and harming their fellow man and woman.
Even if those who purchase what is offered do so of their own free will.
Even if those who purchase are delighted, thrilled, grateful, relieved, happy, contented and satisfied with what they purchased, and did so fully aware of the cost structure of the provider and the quantity of profit they provide.
Even if those who purchase say that the opportunity to make the purchase is a Godsend, an answer to prayer, a solution that is far less expensive than any alternative, a solution that they feel is completely satisfying exchange for the life energy they put into acquiring the money in the first place.
Even if all the profit is immediately donated sacrificially to a worthy cause of service, such as reducing the pain and prolonging the life of a person who needs major medical care.
Now this mantra, profit=evil, if true, puts someone in my position into an utterly untenable double-bind.
If I could offer the most positive, appreciated, loving and kind service to those who are totally delighted and thrilled to pay for it, including a profit they are fully aware is part of the price, then I could relieve the suffering of my fellow human being; and thereby open the green ray of open-hearted loving compassion. If I did not do this, I would force my medical patient whom I could help to suffer completely preventable pain. I would also force my buyers to suffer the loss of the solutions or opportunities I could provide, but only if they provided enough profit to recoup initial startup costs and ongoing operating expenses.
Yet if unity100's mantra is true, then the very act of making the profit, of seeking the profit and of accepting the profit, closes the green ray of open-hearted loving compassion, by forcing my customers to suffer.
Therefore, I am damned if I do and damned if I don't. The patient and I have already conclusively proven, through many experiences I will not detail here, that an appeal to alms is utterly inadequate for covering the necessary medical care. So the question is: am I to go to hell - that is, 4D-, or another 25k years of this sh*t, for idly standing by while one person suffers - that is, the patient? Or am I to go to hell for idly standing by and perpetuating the suffering of a different other person - that is, the customer?
Tell me, u100: should I go to hell for declining to request profits that could reduce pain and suffering? Or should I go to hell for requesting and accepting profits from people utterly willing and delighted to pay them, to combine their alms with a practical benefit that fulfills their desires?
I believe the whole dichotomy is false, and the key to breaking this false contradiction is the recognition that "profits=evil and harm" is a statement of religious faith in certain political and economic theories.
If you say that you find that faith to be comforting and sustaining to your own life, and they you live according to it as much as you can, I have no objection.
If you say that this article of faith is a scientific fact, a logically proven certainty, a matter of historical absolute, and a necessary tenet for any sincere follower of the Law of One along the positive path, I say: bulls*t.
I will withdraw from any further discussion along these lines, unless I see a clear willingness to have a debate free of logical fallacies; a debate based on demonstrated goodwill towards my own sincere search for what is loving and kind in life.
I have given quite some detail about my experience with and growing awareness of how cult brainwashing occurs. Based on what I have written in this forum, it should be no surprise that I am unwilling to accept any amount of emotionally intense repetition as proof of a claim about the nature of spirituality and service.
Repeating a mantra or creed (such as "profit is inherently destructive and enslaving, no matter what, even if it's only one cent") is not a logical, scientific, or religious proof.
I see no evidence of a willingness to respect the sincerity, goodwill, compassion and thoughtfulness with which I have diligently sought to understand the meaning of altruism through philanthropy, as Schweitzer demonstrated, and of service to others through ethical business, as Ford demonstrated.
If you repeat the mantra of your own religious convictions, then you at least owe me this courtesy: explain to me how idly standing by while another's body is wracked with preventable pain is the loving certainty I must have as the ticket to heaven.
I don't believe you can, and I doubt you'll respond to this heartfelt essay with goodwill either. Perhaps you might astonish me with a thoughtful, compassionate, respectful, and logically coherent sincere debate that attempts to avoid any fallacies, false syllogisms, or reliance on Marx as though he channeled the infinite light and love of the Creator. If that happens, I ask a moderator to draw my attention this thread; until that day, I'm outta here.
One consequence is that becoming harvestable to 4D+ is of primary importance.
For a positively oriented Seeker, 4D- would be excruciating hell: to be trapped in a circumstance where every moment is confronted with shapeshifting evildoers focused entirely upon enslavement.
For a positively oriented Seeker, missing the Harvest, for another 25,000 years of 3D existence behind the Veil, would be purgatory. To come so close to the opportunity to be free of the limitations of 3D life, and yet to miss it, would be tortuous.
Now it also seems to me that the Choice of polarity is not a single decision, but the sum total of all the conscious and unconscious experiences of the mind/body/spirit complex. Some experiences serve to open the MBS complex to less distorted usage and onward passage of certain colors of experience, catalyst, or energy patterns. Other experiences serve to close the MBS complex's receptiveness to certain colors of catalyst.
Leaving aside the green energy for a moment, the other energy colors must be individually open, and also opened to a balanced extent, for the MBS complex to be harvestable. In addition, green response must be significantly open for a positive harvest and almost entirely closed for a negative harvest.
Ra said, "To a mind/body/spirit complex which is starving, the appropriate response is the feeding of the body. You may extrapolate from this." I believe a realistic extrapolation is: To a MBS complex which is in physical pain and disintegration, that is preventable by medical treatment, the appropriate response is the medical treatment of the body.
Now I may well have a significant opportunity to ensure the provision of such treatment to one who needs it, and who suffers greatly without it. I believe that I can use money transfer as a means to ensure this provision. Ra mentioned Albert Schweitzer as an example of a spiritually evolved MBS complex along the positive path of service to others.
I've read Schweitzer's book, which I believe is another of the classic inspirational books of all time in terms of describing a life of devoted service to one's fellow man. I have also studied other information about Schweitzer, and I believe I am reasonably well informed about the nature of his life and beliefs.
Ra mentioned Schweitzer's fundraising efforts as an example of vigorous yellow-ray activity within the context of a life successfully polarizing towards service to others. If money donated for medical expenses for others was inherently evil, than Ra would be utterly misguided in this very clear description of Schweitzer's altruistic hospital as a positive expression of compassionate love through the open-hearted green ray.
If I was given the money to, like Schweitzer but on a much smaller scale, fund medical care for someone who needed it; and I chose to spend the money this way: I believe there would clearly be no problem or objection to my spending the money this way. If there was, then Ra is utterly misguided about Schweitzer.
Now here is where we get to the core of my vigorous disagreement with unity100's point of view. I continue to be stunned and shocked by u100's insistence that any form of profit is a form of oppressive evil. I believe this position is a matter of religious faith, which does not hold up to logical scrutiny and is not necessary for a person who seeks to follow the Law of One on a positive path of service to others. I believe the implications of this position, if followed to its logical conclusion, are extraordinarily evil in practice; and that these implications are seldom followed to their logical conclusions.
The logical conclusion of the "profit = evil" mantra is that those who set out to create a profit in business, and succeed at this goal, are always inherently doing evil and harming their fellow man and woman.
Even if those who purchase what is offered do so of their own free will.
Even if those who purchase are delighted, thrilled, grateful, relieved, happy, contented and satisfied with what they purchased, and did so fully aware of the cost structure of the provider and the quantity of profit they provide.
Even if those who purchase say that the opportunity to make the purchase is a Godsend, an answer to prayer, a solution that is far less expensive than any alternative, a solution that they feel is completely satisfying exchange for the life energy they put into acquiring the money in the first place.
Even if all the profit is immediately donated sacrificially to a worthy cause of service, such as reducing the pain and prolonging the life of a person who needs major medical care.
Now this mantra, profit=evil, if true, puts someone in my position into an utterly untenable double-bind.
If I could offer the most positive, appreciated, loving and kind service to those who are totally delighted and thrilled to pay for it, including a profit they are fully aware is part of the price, then I could relieve the suffering of my fellow human being; and thereby open the green ray of open-hearted loving compassion. If I did not do this, I would force my medical patient whom I could help to suffer completely preventable pain. I would also force my buyers to suffer the loss of the solutions or opportunities I could provide, but only if they provided enough profit to recoup initial startup costs and ongoing operating expenses.
Yet if unity100's mantra is true, then the very act of making the profit, of seeking the profit and of accepting the profit, closes the green ray of open-hearted loving compassion, by forcing my customers to suffer.
Therefore, I am damned if I do and damned if I don't. The patient and I have already conclusively proven, through many experiences I will not detail here, that an appeal to alms is utterly inadequate for covering the necessary medical care. So the question is: am I to go to hell - that is, 4D-, or another 25k years of this sh*t, for idly standing by while one person suffers - that is, the patient? Or am I to go to hell for idly standing by and perpetuating the suffering of a different other person - that is, the customer?
Tell me, u100: should I go to hell for declining to request profits that could reduce pain and suffering? Or should I go to hell for requesting and accepting profits from people utterly willing and delighted to pay them, to combine their alms with a practical benefit that fulfills their desires?
I believe the whole dichotomy is false, and the key to breaking this false contradiction is the recognition that "profits=evil and harm" is a statement of religious faith in certain political and economic theories.
If you say that you find that faith to be comforting and sustaining to your own life, and they you live according to it as much as you can, I have no objection.
If you say that this article of faith is a scientific fact, a logically proven certainty, a matter of historical absolute, and a necessary tenet for any sincere follower of the Law of One along the positive path, I say: bulls*t.
I will withdraw from any further discussion along these lines, unless I see a clear willingness to have a debate free of logical fallacies; a debate based on demonstrated goodwill towards my own sincere search for what is loving and kind in life.
I have given quite some detail about my experience with and growing awareness of how cult brainwashing occurs. Based on what I have written in this forum, it should be no surprise that I am unwilling to accept any amount of emotionally intense repetition as proof of a claim about the nature of spirituality and service.
Repeating a mantra or creed (such as "profit is inherently destructive and enslaving, no matter what, even if it's only one cent") is not a logical, scientific, or religious proof.
I see no evidence of a willingness to respect the sincerity, goodwill, compassion and thoughtfulness with which I have diligently sought to understand the meaning of altruism through philanthropy, as Schweitzer demonstrated, and of service to others through ethical business, as Ford demonstrated.
If you repeat the mantra of your own religious convictions, then you at least owe me this courtesy: explain to me how idly standing by while another's body is wracked with preventable pain is the loving certainty I must have as the ticket to heaven.
I don't believe you can, and I doubt you'll respond to this heartfelt essay with goodwill either. Perhaps you might astonish me with a thoughtful, compassionate, respectful, and logically coherent sincere debate that attempts to avoid any fallacies, false syllogisms, or reliance on Marx as though he channeled the infinite light and love of the Creator. If that happens, I ask a moderator to draw my attention this thread; until that day, I'm outta here.