Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself?

[Quantum]

I've wondered about this, too. Ra says that the "absorption into the One Creator continues until all the infinity of creations have attained sufficient spiritual mass in order that all form once again the great central sun, if you would so imagine it, of the intelligent infinity awaiting potentiation by free will." What happens at that point to those who are still in first, second, third, etc. densities? Or does the coalescence wait until all have attained sufficient spiritual mass (which Ra associates elsewhere with reaching the gateway density)?

this is an important question. first of all, infinite intelligence, in order to be one level below infinity as it is, has to be present in all octaves.
therefore, it cant be a part of this octave alone. cannot go from octave to octave.the great central sun of this creation, octave, therefore, has to be a focus of infinite intelligence that is experiencing octaves.
but, here, we are told that, all coalesce in the central sun, that is intelligent infinity awaiting potentiation by free will ...this brings even more important questions. then, is infinite intelligence, something that goes through octaves ? if that's so, that would be a very limited, finite intelligent infinity.

obfuscation:to make obscure or unclear: to obfuscate a problem with extraneous information;to confuse, bewilder, or stupefy.

The full quote by Ra appears below. It might be suggested that several points with regard to your interpretation above may be said to perhaps be missing. We seem to infinitely return to what may be the misunderstanding of what "INFINITY" means. You infinitely suggest that Infinite Intelligence is one level below Infinity. How is this possible in an Infinity where in fact everything is still ONE, and furthermore is still One before distortion has even taken place? By your definition, INFINITY is immediately divided before distortion has taken place. Becoming aware was never a Ra definition of distortion. Becoming aware preceded distortion (levels). How then may there be levels before levels (distortions) have even been created? Given that it is our exclusive objective to further our understanding of the LOO as a study group, it surely does not seem unreasonable to please, just once, give one single reference to this concept as contained nominally, or even in fact vaguely, as supported in, or peripherally by, the LOO.

If becoming aware is a level below being unaware, I am open to hear your explanation. If levels need be used by your interpretation it may as likely if not better be suggested that becoming aware is indeed a level above being unaware. A man unaware is a man as much as is a man aware still a man. If INFINITY Unaware is INFINITY, how is it then that INFINITY Aware is not also INFINITY? Are you suggesting that INFINITY needs be unaware, and presumably Infinitely and always Unaware to be Infinity?

Is it more impossible to believe that The One Infinite Creator before becoming aware was simply unaware, and that as such the One Infinite Creator by virtue of an unobfuscated definition is now simply "INFINITY AWARE?" How is it that "Infinity Unaware", that becomes "Aware," which is still nonetheless All there is, is a level divided? Rather and instead now aware, IT, shall we say, takes on a name called "The One Infinite Creator." It needn't be so obfuscated as it is continually presented. INFINITY Unaware never created anything before it did, but now has, and as such, is The One INFINITE Creator. It is more simple than it is complicated out to be. See the Ra quote below for not only the full quote, but perhaps a better understanding:

40.1 Questioner: I thought that I would make a statement and let you correct it. I’m trying to make a simple model of the portion of the universe that we find ourselves in. Starting with the sub-Logos, our sun, we have white light emanating from this which is made up of the frequencies ranging from the red to the violet. I am assuming that this white light then contains the experiences through all of the densities and as we go into the eighth density we go into a black hole which becomes, on the other side, another Logos or sun and starts another octave of experience. Can you comment on this part of my statement?

Ra: I am Ra. We can comment upon this statement to an extent. The concept of the white light of the sub-Logos being prismatically separated and later, at the final chapter, being absorbed again is basically correct. However, there are subtleties involved which are more than semantic.

The white light which emanates and forms the articulated sub-Logos has its beginning in what may be metaphysically seen as darkness. The light comes into that darkness and transfigures it, causing the chaos to organize and become reflective or radiant. Thus the dimensions come into being.

Conversely, the blackness of the black hole, metaphysically speaking, is a concentration of white light being systematically absorbed once again into the One Creator. Finally, this absorption into the One Creator continues until all the infinity of creations have attained sufficient spiritual mass in order that all form once again the great central sun, if you would so imagine it, of the intelligent infinity awaiting potentiation by free will. Thus the transition of the octave is a process which may be seen to enter into timelessness of unimaginable nature. To attempt to measure it by your time measures would be useless.

Therefore, the concept of moving through the black hole of the ultimate spiritual gravity well and coming immediately into the next octave misses the subconcept or corollary of the portion of this process which is timeless.

Notice here that the white light of all rays is absorbed into "The One Infinite Creator" and not into INFINITY. Further notice that all of absorption occurs into "The One Infinite Creator until all the infinity of creations have obtained spiritual mass in order to form once again. The lessor never absorbs the greater. The greater absorbs the lessor. But in this case the point is moot as the greaters are one and the same. The One Infinite Creator absorbs all of infinity as ITS creations, given that all of infinity is absorbed into the One Infinite Creator, and not that The One Infinite Creator is absorbed or is a by-product of Infinity. By your definition Ra would have stated that when all coalesces and is absorbed, that All, inclusive of The One Infinite Creator, would be absorbed into INFINITY. In fact it is stated and given exactly as the opposite of your understanding.

In closing, it further seems one might also deduce that there is in fact "One Great Central Sun" for all of creation, as distinguished from the infinite number of central suns of the galaxies, aka, the infinite number of Logoi.

Also, given that Infinite Intelligence preceded creation, and is part of the One Infinite Creator as an aspect of IT, Infinite Intelligence presumably is part and parcel of creating octaves as opposed to going through octaves.

Interested as always in your responses....

~ Q ~