(08-19-2016, 08:52 AM)jeremy6d Wrote:Aion Wrote:The reason for the 'impairment' that Ra associates with homosexuality is because the red-ray energy is both reproductive and part of that initial calling to be of service. Thus the 'impairment' is simply that the individual will have to find an alternative route to move those energies up the centers.
I buy a lot of what you explained in your post; seems balanced and a way of putting a sympathetic context in those of Ra's remarks. I'd just point out two things:
1. One of the reasons I said that I simply reject the way Ra framed things is because to accept it would constitute a stumbling block for me and others. It would be one thing if we could right now ask those of Ra what they "really meant". That being impossible, we have a binary choice of whether to take or leave it. Whatever else one might say about this, leaving this view of homosexuality behind is an option that nobody should rule out. Confederation sources are not authorities.
2. I just want to reiterate that the "impairment" being discussed is a function of the individual's conflict with social norms. The problem here is that people read "impairment" and think in terms of some kind of lacking or deviation from nature, from what is natural and somehow proper or ordained by the Logos or whatever. It would be upsetting to me and others if those of Ra's language of male/female archetypical polarity were turned into a kind of essentialist endorsement of certain behaviors and rejection of others. No, the catalyst here is generated by the individual running up against society and somewhat arbitrary norms, not something innate in the person's mind/body/spirit complex that is wrong or broken.
Nothing above is intended to imply that anybody said any of this about impairment outright; I just thought that some of the talk seemed to dip into arguments from nature and we should be clear what we mean by that.
For sure it is a word that can easily be triggering because it suggests concepts such as 'disability' within our societal context, but I also think that if you read the material it becomes apparent that Ra clearly doesn't grasp our societal biases directly, often using words that are not quite how we usually use them, for example their use of 'bisexual'.
That is why I specific sought to frame that word in the context I believe it came from. It appears to me that Ra has only ever been descriptive and at no point has discriminated, but it is inevitable that as people identify with his words they may apply them to themselves and take things personally. Especially for those who do feel a lot of resonance it might feel like Ra is talking to them.
So, if you look at the concept without any bias it really is just a mechanical observation.
Also, I might offer that to outright reject the words is as reactionary as to accept them blindly. People seem to break Ra in to sections, viewing his words has differing or contradictory opinions at times. I view it as a conversation so I am always trying to perceive Ra, not his words or his language but the actual heart and expression behind the words.
It is kind of like talking with someone who is not as familiar with the English language. They won't really use the proper mannerisms or terms for things, they may improvise to a degree, and I think the same is for Ra. They do not 'natively' speak English so they are like a foreigner doing their best with all the vocabulary they have (which obviously would be pretty damn impressive given Ra's vocab) bit they do not always know the correct context in which we are used to in our society.
You can see they have a strong grasp of English as language but they also frequently profess to lack words for that which they wish to communicate. So I feel often there are sometimes words they chose for very literal reasons but which have been taken out of emotional context due to projection.
I had a Slovakian friend who would say "Before 3 hours" rather than "3 hours ago", which conveys a very different meaning for me but for him it just made sense (he spoke 3 languages and English was his second).