10-12-2010, 12:31 PM
Thanks for posting this, Etude. I was just speculating about this to myself last month whilst reading the latest issue of Scientific American, in which that issue's theme was 'The End'. One aspect of 'The End' that they tried to investigate was the end of time, and what that could possibly mean. They didn't link it up to this theory that Penrose gives us, but they did describe how at the end of all things in our universe there are nothing but extremely large black holes, which, having nothing to consume eventually evaporate away over mind bogglingly long periods of time. After that, as you say, there is nothing with that can be compared to anything else in any meaningful way and thus the concept of time is seen as meaningless.
As has been happening often lately, this train of thought has been echoed in a few other threads here, namely:
- Why would the Creator elect suffering for ITself? - http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=1660
- 2nd LOO Question: Creation - http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=1583
Also, there is this to consider:
For a while there was a theory going around called 'the Big Crunch' that Stephen Hawking proposed, which is basically the reverse of the big bang. This sounds very much like what Ra is talking about. However we know now with current physics that this can't happen thanks to dark energy, which is pushing and expanding the universe at an ever faster pace. Gravity can never overcome this energy, so it is presumed the universe will expand out forever.
But, we also now know that black holes are far more common in the universe than we thought they were. In fact, it is thought now that every galaxy in the universe harbors a super-massive black hole at it's center. There are more spiritual ramifications to these ideas as well, but for the purpose of this topic, it can be seen that if all matter and energy are eventually absorbed in to black holes at the end of all things, it can be seen to be no different than a big crunch. Everything crunches eventually, worded differently. Or per Ra, all consciousness periodically coalesces (black hole universe ending) and begins again (Penrose cyclic cosmology)
Great topic.
Love and Light, Lavazza
As has been happening often lately, this train of thought has been echoed in a few other threads here, namely:
- Why would the Creator elect suffering for ITself? - http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=1660
- 2nd LOO Question: Creation - http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=1583
Also, there is this to consider:
Quote:28.15 Questioner: Are you saying then that there are an infinite number of octaves of densities one through eight?
Ra: I am Ra. We wish to establish that we are truly humble messengers of the Law of One. We can speak to you of our experiences and our understandings and teach/learn in limited ways. However, we cannot speak in firm knowledge of all the creations. We know only that they are infinite. We assume an infinite number of octaves.
However, it has been impressed upon us by our own teachers that there is a mystery-clad unity of creation in which all consciousness periodically coalesces and again begins. Thus we can only say we assume an infinite progression though we understand it to be cyclical in nature and, as we have said, clad in mystery.
For a while there was a theory going around called 'the Big Crunch' that Stephen Hawking proposed, which is basically the reverse of the big bang. This sounds very much like what Ra is talking about. However we know now with current physics that this can't happen thanks to dark energy, which is pushing and expanding the universe at an ever faster pace. Gravity can never overcome this energy, so it is presumed the universe will expand out forever.
But, we also now know that black holes are far more common in the universe than we thought they were. In fact, it is thought now that every galaxy in the universe harbors a super-massive black hole at it's center. There are more spiritual ramifications to these ideas as well, but for the purpose of this topic, it can be seen that if all matter and energy are eventually absorbed in to black holes at the end of all things, it can be seen to be no different than a big crunch. Everything crunches eventually, worded differently. Or per Ra, all consciousness periodically coalesces (black hole universe ending) and begins again (Penrose cyclic cosmology)
Great topic.
Love and Light, Lavazza