Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself?

[Quantum]

Dear 3D. What wonderful considerations you've offered. Forgive me for my lack of speed in responding, but I've been away with the important matters and tasks of reveling in play at the beach.

I believe that the lesson to be learned from suffering is one of atonement. In our Judeo/Christian/Islamic (JCI did you call it), traditions, the term atonement is interpreted to mean spiritual restitution for sins. To me, atonement is the process of being more "at one" with the creator and hence all of the co-creators we may have intentionally or unintentionally harmed (or caused to suffer).

I have always found the term, concept, and even vibratory sound complex of the word "atonement" to be one that rings with melodic resonance, as though literally in tune, and likened to the the musicality of the spheres and the plucked chord spoken to in the threads from a Ra quote. AT-ONE-MENT. Well said 3D.

* Last question: Might the minimization of suffering in ones life then, if any of the above is true, be akin to the finely wrought mask that our dear friend βαθμιαίος as poetically proposed, and as such, also be likened to a finely wrought instrument created by ourselves to gauge where we may be at with respect to our lessons?

Indeed, my friend, indeed.

maldek, is no more. mars, is uninhabitable. (and hence has no 3d activity).

I will admit that a search "may" produce a definitive answer, but without having availed myself to same, allow me instead to simply rush to the question by as simply asking, is Mars uninhabitable by any density, and thus devoid of all life? By your question, is 3D the baseline for establishing life, if not success, not just with respect to Mars, but any other planet in the universe?

because flows are disrupted, spirit part of complex is hampered. there is strong mind, there is the means to use it, and hence, a lot of technology and power, lacking the inspiration and guidance/direction/desires of spirit, comes into being.its like a powder keg. it explodes randomly. it doesnt even explode negatively. if it was, it would at least be having a direction.

The explanation above, as are many of your views, is spoken to in terms of mechanics, and as such is indeed a superb explanation. It then perhaps however misses the mark entirely in its conclusion by not taking into account indeed the potential for explosions, powder kegs, and blocked flows as in fact being part and parcel of the experiment which was designed and planned for exactly as such. You speak to these blockages as though they are shortcomings and poor designs of the Logos, if not in fact failures, much like an engineer who having designed an obstacle course for physical work-out, fun, and pleasure, complete with water holes, mud holes, broad jumps, high jumps, and monkey bars, failed in his design by not making it a straight running course instead. Your work-out course certainly would have been a less expensive course in construction, and one with no flow blockages. However, your design, although with zero blockages intended in its blue-prints by design and purpose, may have, shall we say, not worked out the same muscle groups as a whole, not to speak of cardio functions, lung capacity improvements, and overall improvement in agility as well as intellectual problem solving as regards the obstacles, powder kegs and resultant explosions in question, which are indeed avoidable as a result of taking your straighter course, but alas would have been a far more inferior one as a result. Your courses, shall we say, never would have approached the intent for overall "Peak Performance" on all levels, as was designed by the Logos.

I like to compare 3D existence behind the veil to the creation of a complex computer game. If it is easy to create, then it is not very interesting to play. The harder it is to create, the more interesting it is to play. The thicker the veil and the greater the free will allocated to the individual, the more time is required to create the game, and the greater the experiences of the ultimate player of the game (i.e. the One Infinite Creator). Creating great things takes time. The One Infinite creator has infinite (sorry Quantum) patience.

A-h-h-h-h...but dear sir, if I may be so presumptuous as to speak for the originator of said "Infinity Philosophy", you fail to take into account that in Infinity the One Infinite Creator is also Infinitely impatient..........

notwithstanding that this too must also mean that IT also is infinitely wrathful, infinitely malevolent, infinitely ugly, infinitely nasty, and filled with infinite jealousy, scorn, judgment, and infinitely filled with condemnation as well. "IT" is after all Infinitely Schizophrenic.

If I were to not graduate to either camp of service at the end of this cycle, or at the end of the next 10,000 cycles, would it make much difference? What would happen to my soul, surely my cosmic batteries will not expire? Or am I in some way racing to keep up with the lifespan of the galactic logos, hoping to have evolved before it "dies" at the end of it's long, tens of billions of years long life? I would probably be transferred to some other galaxy I should suppose, but if I am determined to persist in my folly until the end of that galaxy, what then?

What an excellent point of consideration Lavazza. H-m-m-m-m...we have infinity to progress, but the Galactic Logoi and One Infinite Creator infinitely conspire against us nevertheless wishing for us to move infinitely faster than we do, this in a vacuum where there is no time?

It begs the next question, shall I/we remain forevermore timelessly confused, always approaching the mystery of infinity, but never a chance for understanding IT?

...L/L

~ Q ~