10-09-2010, 06:17 PM
(10-09-2010, 09:48 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: The Logoi that incorporated free will as paramount were hoping to catalyze seeking. They seem to have been quite successful at that. To the point of this thread, that's the reason for suffering (the board to the forehead, 83.26).
they havent been successful. if we take what happened here. 2nd cycle harvest of this planet, was 250 people out of 4 billion or so. almost none. no harvest in 1st cycle before that.
maldek blew up. no harvests. mars uninhabitable. how much harvest was made, is unknown. yet, they used energy weapons probably, hence, a mess of consciousness like maldek, would not be out of the question, even if for parts of population, unless it was intervened.
the above-all idea is, you cant 'catalyze' things. they just happen in their due time. introductions of all kinds of sufferings, emotions, this that, constructs, limitations, will not change the fact that spirit will still do what it is ready when it is ready.
this is the picture we are having in front of us.
the 3d of this density, is still heavily invested in 2d consciousness. (we know this from Ra).
it is highly possible that, because due to the intense pain, suffering catalyst and other kind of catalyst introduced in 2d, these entities also had a 'catalyzed and encouraged' graduation from 2d. ( at least, talking about the natives of this planet. it is possible that those from this solar system could be in the same position).
but, just like how Ra had to spend much time in 5d to offset their 4d experience, the entities here are spending their due time in 3d, in 2d consciousness. still making up for the rush.
after all, what we know from Ra is, ratios never change in the end. you can accelerate or condense a density, or, make it take longer, but, it will get offset in the end.
Quote:Of course, you're correct that evolution continues and that future Logoi will design their creations after gleaning the lessons of this one. But decreasing free will doesn't seem to be the direction things are going.
is it ?
what's all this channeled information, spiritual contact, spiritual ideals and philosophies which have been coming in in phenomenal amounts since mid 19th century, in an increasing rate ? leave aside all the wanderers who constitute a population more than a decent 6d complex's ? all the info that was given, inventions, ideological systems, philosophies, even if they didnt succeed to full extent ?
veil was put in to separate conscious and subconscious, quarantine was placed to prevent external influences, but with all above, we have almost offset the quarantine, and undid veil in a grander scale, if not for each individual entity, one by one -> as a planet, this planet has almost no veil. that is not counting all the efforts of wanderers which turned into religions since a long while.