06-11-2016, 09:01 PM
(06-11-2016, 12:24 PM)Minyatur Wrote:(06-11-2016, 12:00 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: As I said above, I think the aspect of 'increasing the desire to know' is the main function of the Veil. The two paths being a side effect of that desire.
Negative entities are in no way stupid. They can see the 'landscape' of the Creator and the Creation. They just think that the positive path allows too much 'weakness' to be retained within the self; and that there always has to be a best (ie superior) answer; and all other answers have to be invalidated. Positives can see the 'diversity' in Creation, and recognise it is all entirely valid, and it's all just possible spin-offs from the one self.
Does the positive entity feels this or rather seeks to feel this?
I'd think the awareness of it is common ground although the positive entity would have a greater desire to reconcile the experiences of others whereas the negative one is more likely to avoid this work it knows to he inevitable. Which pretty much goes along what you said, except whether if this is inherently known and felt or requires work for what is known to become felt.
I would say that there are 'gradations' of this knowing/feeling. 4d positives are still 'projecting' to some degree, and hence they still see the 'negative interpretation' as something that needs to be countered, rather than just something that will fall away on it's own. Part of this is the physical vehicle itself, which in 4d is still solid, and is subject to injuries/damage/death from other selves. And so of course, one has a desire to intervene; whether it be for oneself or for another self, when there is the threat of an attack. But it's the appropriate physical vehicle to enscapsulate the lessons of that level of knowing/feeling.
If one adopts the inner attitude, and commits to seeing the 'other' (all 'others') as the self, then the harvest will bring you up to 5d, where light bodies are not subject to such loss and deterioration. And so there is no 'fight' even possible at that stage, because the self is just exploring all possible natures of itself, because it has come to that level of 'awareness'. And so we are always gifted or granted the appropriate means that is consonant with our comprehension of Creation. The big spanner in the works being that of Wanderers, and choosing to go back to a former physical vehicle, that is in many ways, dissonant with their level of consciousness. And thus their 'understandings' are somewhat incompatible with the environment in which they find themselves; because deep down, they are not vibrating with the sense of loss and limitation that are the boundary points of a 3d life.
But to answer your Question, the seeking creates the opportunity for the feeling (or the experiencing). The whole 'process' of growth and development is based on where are 'minds' are pointed to.
In terms of specifics, I would say it's the latter part of your Question. That it does take some 'work' to experience it 'properly'. That's the role of Teachers. The Teacher describes something that is 'possible' but not yet experienced by the so-called Student; and then the student has enough 'trust' to accept that what is being described is actually possible, and then makes their own attempts so that they can experience it for themselves. A very simple example would be astral travelling. Some people have been doing this from a young age, and are well experienced. They then understand enough of the process to start talking about it, or doing interviews, or write a book; and then people who haven't had this for themselves, take it on face value, and then want to experience it themselves. So 4d teaches 3d, and 5d teaches 4d, and so on. We're in the situation where we have an apparently 6d teacher offering information about states to a 3d student (the channeling group).
(06-11-2016, 12:24 PM)Minyatur Wrote: Quite an interesting thread you made!
ah thanks! Just relating my tentative conclusions about the Crown Chakra. I'm sure a lot of it is a combination of previous things that I've come across before in writings, but it seemed to all 'coalesce' into the phenomena of the violet ray, and what it's all about.