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    Thread: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself?


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    10-05-2010, 11:49 AM
    Suffering is only suffering until the sufferer has the profound realization that it's a divine gift. Then, it becomes like a stairstep to higher consciousness. At that point, it's important to note that suffering is an illusion. It has no depth other than what you give it. In and of itself, it is not suffering at all. And you no longer define yourself as one who suffers. Look up what the Buddha had to say about suffering. Very relevant information there. Smile

    This paragraph from this Q'uo session reveals the value of suffering to the Creator/us.

    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is...10_04.aspx

    "In a way, the beauty of this density is its very sharpness of suffering and difficulty. For the extremely harsh conditions create ways in which one may change one’s polarity or emphasize one’s polarity very quickly, indeed, almost instantaneously. You may do in fifty years, or twenty years, or even five years that which it would take us a million years to do, because of the fact that we see the whole picture. We understand all that there is to understand in terms of the Creator’s plan for us. Therefore, it is an open-book test, and that which we learn, we learn in painfully slow increments, gradually refining, and refining again, our choice."

    I love the comparison to the open book test vs the closed book test. It makes it very easy for me to understand. Smile

    We know that since we are the Creator, the Creator learns through our experience. Since the Creator learns through experience and uses that gained experience to shape further creations, it makes sense that when we (as a Whole) discovered that suffering was an efficient way to gain experience behind a veil, we would employ that method. If you think "But look at all the pain suffering brings to humanity! It's a horrible thing." Remember that suffering is only suffering to the one who defines themselves as a sufferer.

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    Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-05-2010, 11:18 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Aaron - 10-05-2010, 11:49 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-05-2010, 12:36 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by ricdaw - 10-05-2010, 12:59 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by LsavedSmeD - 10-05-2010, 12:03 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Turtle - 10-05-2010, 12:49 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Aaron - 10-05-2010, 01:03 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-05-2010, 03:04 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by ricdaw - 10-05-2010, 07:52 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Lavazza - 10-11-2010, 01:56 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-11-2010, 08:10 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Lavazza - 10-12-2010, 11:15 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-13-2010, 07:04 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-13-2010, 11:13 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Lavazza - 10-13-2010, 11:30 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Turtle - 10-14-2010, 08:37 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Aaron - 10-06-2010, 04:28 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Steppingfeet - 10-05-2010, 03:11 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-05-2010, 05:23 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Etude in B Minor - 10-05-2010, 09:43 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Questioner - 10-06-2010, 11:46 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Namaste - 10-06-2010, 06:50 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-07-2010, 09:54 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-07-2010, 10:10 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-08-2010, 06:34 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-08-2010, 11:32 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-09-2010, 12:47 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-09-2010, 09:48 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-09-2010, 06:17 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by 3D Sunset - 10-09-2010, 10:25 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-09-2010, 08:51 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Experience You - 10-09-2010, 07:33 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-09-2010, 09:22 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-09-2010, 10:29 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-09-2010, 10:40 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-09-2010, 11:04 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-09-2010, 11:11 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-09-2010, 11:32 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-10-2010, 11:22 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-11-2010, 07:24 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-13-2010, 11:33 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-14-2010, 12:25 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-14-2010, 01:44 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-14-2010, 09:33 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-14-2010, 02:06 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Turtle - 10-14-2010, 03:23 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-14-2010, 06:23 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by 3D Sunset - 10-14-2010, 10:57 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-14-2010, 11:44 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Lavazza - 10-14-2010, 12:39 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-14-2010, 04:58 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-15-2010, 02:10 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-15-2010, 03:42 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-14-2010, 07:56 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-15-2010, 04:36 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-15-2010, 05:23 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-15-2010, 06:27 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-15-2010, 07:14 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-15-2010, 08:27 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-15-2010, 06:32 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-15-2010, 08:53 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-15-2010, 10:31 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Crimson - 10-15-2010, 11:00 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-15-2010, 11:37 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Crimson - 10-16-2010, 12:24 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-16-2010, 10:16 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-17-2010, 01:51 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-17-2010, 06:48 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-17-2010, 06:56 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-17-2010, 11:36 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-16-2010, 08:33 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-17-2010, 10:05 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-17-2010, 10:09 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-17-2010, 11:40 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-18-2010, 01:20 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-18-2010, 12:35 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-19-2010, 07:26 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-20-2010, 12:17 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-20-2010, 11:15 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Lavazza - 10-20-2010, 02:48 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-20-2010, 11:24 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-21-2010, 12:31 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Crimson - 10-29-2010, 03:51 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-18-2010, 11:52 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-19-2010, 01:08 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-19-2010, 02:16 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-19-2010, 08:19 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by CircleofOne - 10-19-2010, 07:53 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by CircleofOne - 10-20-2010, 01:15 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-20-2010, 04:01 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Etude in B Minor - 10-20-2010, 05:38 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by CircleofOne - 10-20-2010, 07:48 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Ali Quadir - 10-21-2010, 02:44 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Quantum - 10-21-2010, 02:52 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-22-2010, 10:49 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Steppingfeet - 10-21-2010, 03:04 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-22-2010, 09:16 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-23-2010, 02:05 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-23-2010, 04:13 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-24-2010, 12:44 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Lavazza - 10-25-2010, 09:27 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-25-2010, 10:01 AM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by Lavazza - 10-28-2010, 12:23 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by 3D Sunset - 10-24-2010, 12:49 PM
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    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by 3D Sunset - 10-24-2010, 07:56 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by βαθμιαίος - 10-24-2010, 08:04 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-24-2010, 03:15 PM
    RE: Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? - by unity100 - 10-24-2010, 05:54 PM
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