04-20-2016, 10:06 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-20-2016, 10:12 AM by Steppingfeet.)
Great thread! Likes all around.
A good question that perplexes me as well. I have a hard time imagining discarnate negative sources cleverly orchestrating human events on the ground, at least to the extent that the negative entities become puppet masters, and we - or those of us susceptible to their instructions - the puppets.
There is another moment in Earth's history where Ra identifies behind-the-scenes negative influence for reasons not dissimilar to their attempt to thwart the Ra Contact:
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Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
17.17 Questioner: Can you tell me what the Orion group did in order to try to cause his downfall?
Ra: I am Ra. We may describe in general what occurred. The technique was that of building upon other negatively oriented information. This information had been given by the one whom your peoples called “Yahweh.” This information involved many strictures upon behavior and promised power of the third-density, service-to-self nature. These two types of distortions were impressed upon those already oriented to think these thought-forms.
This eventually led to many challenges of the entity known as Jesus. It eventually led to one, sound vibration complex “Judas,” as you call this entity, who believed that it was doing the appropriate thing in bringing about or forcing upon the one you call Jesus the necessity for bringing in the third-density planetary power distortion of third-density rule over others.
This entity, Judas, felt that, if pushed into a corner, the entity you call Jesus would then be able to see the wisdom of using the power of intelligent infinity in order to rule others. The one you call Judas was mistaken in this estimation of the reaction of the entity, Jesus, whose teach/learning was not oriented towards this distortion. This resulted in the destruction of the bodily complex of the one known as Jesus to you.
Here Ra describes a "technique" that includes only the seeding of information, and the, I presume, fanning of the subsequent flames, thereby fostering an environment whereby one such as Judas might adopt a position of using power to rule, and then attempt to force Jesus into the position. (This event, its characters and dynamics, all seem rich with philosophical allegory.)
In the case of delivering unto Carla the opportunity to ingest LSD . . . I can't imagine that those friends of hers who offered this opportunity had anything but love in their hearts, and the basic desire of sharing that we've all seen among friends who want simply to share a good high.
So what role did STS forces play in that outcome?
I can only speculate but perhaps they saw the availability of the substance, and the possibility of it being delivered to Carla, and transmitted subtle promptings to the actors on that particular stage.
. . .
The difficulty and danger with notions like this is that it might reinforce paranoiac delusions of those who interpret their immediate world, or the world at large, as one which conspires against them in the attempt to trick, steal, enslave, limit, etc.
I think events like these in the Law of One need balanced with a greater understanding of the full ramifications of free will.
Innnnndeed. Well said.
I concur with Verum's follow-up to your post about how we are given multiple opportunities if one or a few signposts are missed. However, Ra does seem to indicate elsewhere (I'm not recalling the exact quote) that opportunities continually not taken will be eventually not offered.
While the events that lead to a successful 106 sessions with Ra seem so delicate and impossibly converged - as you note, do something as simple as fail to turn on the radio that night and the entire contact never happens - I believe, and it's only a belief, that there were very strong undercurrents guiding those three to one another.
Take for instance:
Coming from Ra, the king of understatement, a "vortex of some strength" is a movement of energy or circumstance that we, from our perspective, would consider quite powerful, even, you might say, irresistible. Though free will, will, of course, has always the final say.
Consider that Jim was pulled, as it were, from Nebraska to settle in Kentucky for his wilderness experience, a distance of about 900 miles (1,448km). And not just anywhere, but the same county wherein members of his regional co-op were also members of Don and Carla's Eftspan group. And that, years later, while meditating in Oregon about what path he should take among the few options open to him (including very lucrative employment), Jim receives/perceives the message loud and clear to "Go back to Louisville. Join Don and Carla" within thirty seconds of initiating his weekend-long meditation quest.
(04-19-2016, 06:03 PM)Verum Occultum Wrote: I wonder what does "arranging opportunities" mean in this context? Did the negatives subtly organize certain entities together and predicted the outcome? Without deeply plunging into the specificity of what happened in Carla's life at that time, could you please share your view on what you think that means? Do you think there were telepathic influences from the negatives, and if there were, how do you think that affected the free will of the ones in the situation? Thank you.
A good question that perplexes me as well. I have a hard time imagining discarnate negative sources cleverly orchestrating human events on the ground, at least to the extent that the negative entities become puppet masters, and we - or those of us susceptible to their instructions - the puppets.
There is another moment in Earth's history where Ra identifies behind-the-scenes negative influence for reasons not dissimilar to their attempt to thwart the Ra Contact:
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Quote:[url=http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=17]17.16 Questioner: When Jesus of Nazareth incarnated was there an attempt by the Orion group to discredit him in some way?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
17.17 Questioner: Can you tell me what the Orion group did in order to try to cause his downfall?
Ra: I am Ra. We may describe in general what occurred. The technique was that of building upon other negatively oriented information. This information had been given by the one whom your peoples called “Yahweh.” This information involved many strictures upon behavior and promised power of the third-density, service-to-self nature. These two types of distortions were impressed upon those already oriented to think these thought-forms.
This eventually led to many challenges of the entity known as Jesus. It eventually led to one, sound vibration complex “Judas,” as you call this entity, who believed that it was doing the appropriate thing in bringing about or forcing upon the one you call Jesus the necessity for bringing in the third-density planetary power distortion of third-density rule over others.
This entity, Judas, felt that, if pushed into a corner, the entity you call Jesus would then be able to see the wisdom of using the power of intelligent infinity in order to rule others. The one you call Judas was mistaken in this estimation of the reaction of the entity, Jesus, whose teach/learning was not oriented towards this distortion. This resulted in the destruction of the bodily complex of the one known as Jesus to you.
Here Ra describes a "technique" that includes only the seeding of information, and the, I presume, fanning of the subsequent flames, thereby fostering an environment whereby one such as Judas might adopt a position of using power to rule, and then attempt to force Jesus into the position. (This event, its characters and dynamics, all seem rich with philosophical allegory.)
In the case of delivering unto Carla the opportunity to ingest LSD . . . I can't imagine that those friends of hers who offered this opportunity had anything but love in their hearts, and the basic desire of sharing that we've all seen among friends who want simply to share a good high.
So what role did STS forces play in that outcome?
I can only speculate but perhaps they saw the availability of the substance, and the possibility of it being delivered to Carla, and transmitted subtle promptings to the actors on that particular stage.
. . .
The difficulty and danger with notions like this is that it might reinforce paranoiac delusions of those who interpret their immediate world, or the world at large, as one which conspires against them in the attempt to trick, steal, enslave, limit, etc.
I think events like these in the Law of One need balanced with a greater understanding of the full ramifications of free will.
(04-20-2016, 02:15 AM)YinYang Wrote: What I sometimes ponder, is how seemingly "accidental" things are, and then somehow it was meant to be. Like Carla, Don and Jim preparing for this work in previous incarnations, and how serendipitously they met each other. What if Jim didn't switch on his radio while he was living in his cabin, and heard Carla and Don's interview? What if Carla didn't date that guy who was a student of Don? It sometimes just seems so accidental, like one little infinitesimal possibility in an infinite sea of possibilities...
Innnnndeed. Well said.
I concur with Verum's follow-up to your post about how we are given multiple opportunities if one or a few signposts are missed. However, Ra does seem to indicate elsewhere (I'm not recalling the exact quote) that opportunities continually not taken will be eventually not offered.
While the events that lead to a successful 106 sessions with Ra seem so delicate and impossibly converged - as you note, do something as simple as fail to turn on the radio that night and the entire contact never happens - I believe, and it's only a belief, that there were very strong undercurrents guiding those three to one another.
Take for instance:
Quote:68.13 Questioner: We have been speaking almost precisely of the portion of the Esmerelda Sweetwater book which we wrote having to do with Trostrick’s misplacement of the space girl’s mind/body/spirit complex. What is the significance of that work that we did with respect to our lives? It has been confusing to me for some time how that meshes in. Can you tell me that?
68.14 Ra: When the commitment was made between two of this group to work for the betterment of the planetary sphere, this commitment activated a possibility/probability vortex of some strength. The experience of generating this volume was unusual in that it was visualized as if watching the moving picture.
Time had become available in its present-moment form. The scenario of the volume went smoothly until the ending of the volume. You could not end the volume, and the ending was not visualized as the entire body of the material but was written or authored.
This is due to the action of free will in all of the creation. However, the volume contains a view of significant events, both symbolically and specifically, which you saw under the influence of the magnetic attraction which was released when the commitment was made and full memory of the dedication of this, what you may call, mission restored.
Coming from Ra, the king of understatement, a "vortex of some strength" is a movement of energy or circumstance that we, from our perspective, would consider quite powerful, even, you might say, irresistible. Though free will, will, of course, has always the final say.
Consider that Jim was pulled, as it were, from Nebraska to settle in Kentucky for his wilderness experience, a distance of about 900 miles (1,448km). And not just anywhere, but the same county wherein members of his regional co-op were also members of Don and Carla's Eftspan group. And that, years later, while meditating in Oregon about what path he should take among the few options open to him (including very lucrative employment), Jim receives/perceives the message loud and clear to "Go back to Louisville. Join Don and Carla" within thirty seconds of initiating his weekend-long meditation quest.
Quote:8.1 Ra: Consider, if you will, the path your life-experience complex has taken. Consider the coincidences and odd circumstances by which one thing flowed to the next. Consider this well.
Each entity will receive the opportunity that each needs.
Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi