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    09-30-2010, 07:48 AM (This post was last modified: 09-30-2010, 08:06 AM by @ndy.)
    I used to have a view similar to Ali. As a vet nurse I have seen puppies die of preventable illnesses (I will add these were also the puppies from puppy farms.)

    I'm now firmly with FFG - threw my own research and much investigation. I was blessed with a very sensitive little boy who reacted to his vaccinations. I was faced with the difficult choice of more vaccines or not.

    My instincts were telling me no - I felt physically sick at the thought of taking him, but my mind was telling me yes.

    Ultimately I was in the position of having to decide what I thought was of more risk to my Son. Conventional treatment had already failed to treat his ‘Eczema’ I resolved this myself with organic clothing, change of diet and elimination of all detergents.

    I spent weeks researching reading research papers, articles and looking at studies.
    I've studied science at Uni so am familiar with statistics and the scientific method, as a vet nurse I'm comfortable with medical terminology.

    The big warning light for me was the one study into MMR into the UK - it was a large epidemiological study. I discovered the raw data was never released to any other peers. There was only ever the original statistical analysis done by the researcher and there was a conflict of interest there.
    Forgive me for jumping to conclusions - but I like to look at the raw data.. There’s a lot you can do with statistical manipulation. What other reason other than hiding something would they have for with holding the original raw data?

    I found little actual 'evidence' I was happy with that confirmed the safety and effectiveness of mass vaccination. I was also concerned about what happens to nautral immunity? When I was growing up it was 'normal' to get sick - I could offer may babys my immunity I'd gained in childhood.


    For me I broke it down into -
    1) I take the risk of vaccinating my sensitive son with a vaccine that may or may not work, and may or may not damage him.

    2) I don't vaccinate and risk that
    He may or may not get an illness
    If he dose get an illness, he may or may not get it seriously
    If he dose get it seriously, there may or may not be any lasting problems.

    It is ultimately a difficult decision that every parent must make on behalf of there child for most children vaccinations are fine but for some they are not safe.

    I see my sensitive son as a gift.
    In my eyes these sensitive children are a reflection of what we are doing to our planet. These children born in higher and higher volumes are so sensitive to life on modern earth that they are prescribed steroids and medications to stop there body’s doing what comes naturally.

    I see these children as a catalyst for all to look hard at how we are living what we are doing to our planet and our children.
    Like others have mentioned these children can be transformed completely with Alternative education, pure food water, organic clothing and elimination of chemicals - As I see it they are showing the way for change. xx

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    the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by xlsander - 07-13-2009, 05:53 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by Ali Quadir - 10-04-2010, 11:39 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by Monica - 10-04-2010, 01:55 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by cosmoethicism - 10-04-2010, 03:09 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by Ali Quadir - 10-04-2010, 04:20 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by Monica - 10-04-2010, 05:04 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by cosmoethicism - 10-04-2010, 11:01 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by @ndy - 10-05-2010, 04:04 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by cosmoethicism - 10-05-2010, 10:26 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by @ndy - 10-05-2010, 11:34 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by fairyfarmgirl - 10-05-2010, 08:21 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by Questioner - 10-16-2010, 01:08 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by Monica - 10-16-2010, 01:43 AM
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    H1N1 vaccine and vaccines in general - by peelstreetguy - 11-30-2009, 01:22 PM
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    H1N1 vaccine is unknown/untested poison ! ! - by C-JEAN - 12-01-2009, 02:38 PM
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    Verify your sources. - by C-JEAN - 12-02-2009, 04:19 PM
    RE: H1N1 vaccine is poison - by Peregrinus - 12-02-2009, 04:23 PM
    RE: H1N1 vaccine is poison - by Ali Quadir - 12-02-2009, 05:15 PM
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    RE: H1N1 vaccine is poison - by Lorna - 12-07-2009, 05:04 PM
    RE: H1N1 vaccine is poison - by Monica - 12-07-2009, 05:35 PM
    RE: H1N1 vaccine is poison - by DonaldA - 12-07-2009, 11:52 PM
    RE: H1N1 vaccine is poison - by transiten - 12-08-2009, 12:55 AM
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    RE: H1N1 vaccine is poison - by Lorna - 12-08-2009, 06:20 AM
    RE: H1N1 vaccine is poison - by Ali Quadir - 12-08-2009, 06:50 AM
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    Disagreeing is cool too! - by Ali Quadir - 12-08-2009, 06:10 PM
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    RE: H1N1 vaccine is poison - by Peregrinus - 12-08-2009, 11:28 PM
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    RE: H1N1 vaccine is poison - by ExperiencedGhost - 12-15-2009, 10:09 AM
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    RE: H1N1 vaccine and vaccines in general - by fairyfarmgirl - 12-15-2009, 03:42 PM
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    [split] Vaccines - by dolphin - 05-09-2010, 03:47 PM
    the amish dont get autism - by norral - 09-27-2010, 07:26 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by Aaron - 09-27-2010, 09:58 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by Ali Quadir - 09-27-2010, 03:41 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by peelstreetguy - 09-27-2010, 05:48 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by Ali Quadir - 09-27-2010, 08:33 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by peelstreetguy - 09-27-2010, 09:05 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by norral - 09-28-2010, 07:08 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by Ali Quadir - 09-28-2010, 07:16 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by peelstreetguy - 09-28-2010, 12:21 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by cosmoethicism - 09-28-2010, 01:41 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by Ali Quadir - 09-28-2010, 01:54 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by cosmoethicism - 09-28-2010, 01:59 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by Ali Quadir - 09-28-2010, 02:22 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by cosmoethicism - 09-28-2010, 05:25 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by fairyfarmgirl - 09-28-2010, 04:15 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by Ali Quadir - 09-28-2010, 05:19 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by peelstreetguy - 09-28-2010, 05:44 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by cosmoethicism - 09-28-2010, 05:50 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by fairyfarmgirl - 09-28-2010, 06:32 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by norral - 09-29-2010, 02:33 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by Ali Quadir - 09-29-2010, 08:34 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by cosmoethicism - 09-30-2010, 02:49 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by Ali Quadir - 09-30-2010, 04:23 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by cosmoethicism - 09-30-2010, 08:40 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by SuperManny - 09-29-2010, 11:57 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by norral - 09-29-2010, 01:36 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by fairyfarmgirl - 09-30-2010, 07:21 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by @ndy - 09-30-2010, 07:48 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by Ali Quadir - 09-30-2010, 09:05 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by cosmoethicism - 09-30-2010, 09:19 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by Joseph326 - 09-30-2010, 07:23 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by cosmoethicism - 10-01-2010, 10:40 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by Ali Quadir - 10-02-2010, 07:59 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by cosmoethicism - 10-02-2010, 08:51 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by @ndy - 10-03-2010, 11:30 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by Monica - 10-03-2010, 03:35 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by cosmoethicism - 10-03-2010, 08:48 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism - by Aaron - 10-02-2010, 12:52 AM
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